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Contract of Employment- What's negotiable in Public Sector for existing staff

  • 14-07-2020 10:24pm
    #1
    WoollyRedHat
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    I'm due to be offered a new contract of employment in Public Sector. I'm just wondering as an existing employee who will be staying at same grade, what may be negotiable?


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  • #2
    whampiri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭whampiri


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    I'm due to be offered a new contract of employment in Public Sector. I'm just wondering as an existing employee who will be staying at same grade, what may be negotiable?

    Nothing.


  • #3
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    whampiri wrote: »
    Nothing.

    Ha legit.


  • #4
    [Deleted User]
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    bit unclear as to what the position is here tbh OP

    if its an extension/renewal of a temp contract or somesuch then the answer is as above


  • #5
    WoollyRedHat
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    bit unclear as to what the position is here tbh OP

    if its an extension/renewal of a temp contract or somesuch then the answer is as above

    Hi Snoopsheep, it's effectively a new role, job title has changed, as has the job description and direct line manager.


  • #6
    P2C
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    If no change of grade it would not be considered a promotion so same T& C apply


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  • #7
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    P2C wrote: »
    If no change of grade it would not be considered a promotion so same T& C apply

    Hi P2C, but it's changing from a specified purpose contract to a Fixed contract. Surely if same T & C apply, they wouldn't be sending me another contract to sign?


  • #8
    P2C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭P2C


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Hi P2C, but it's changing from a specified purpose contract to a Fixed contract. Surely if same T & C apply, they wouldn't be sending me another contract to sign?[/

    The fixed contract will be for just say 1-3 years or for a specific task then it will end. Your specified purpose contract has probably run its course or again is time bound for a specific purpose. They are keeping you on or you applied for a new job and it’s fixed term. Therefore new contract but same conditions. Every job has a number.

    Public sector contracts are standardised and the same t&c’s for everyone with exceptions on salary scale depending on previous experience depending on weather it’s in the public or private. I went up a grade recently after 15 years as a VI to a VII. I lost 3days annual leave. I gained 2hrs extra work per week and I went from top of VI scale to next point plus 1 on the VII scale. The only promotion I have heard of that your hourly rate goes down. There is little to no room for negotiation. although the conditions of employment are generally very good


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