Were my rear brake pads really changed?

raspberrypi67

Hi Folks,


So quick question. My wife's C-max ( ford ) had disks and pads changed on her car last year, all on the invoice, new everything....
This year getting an oil change ( different guy, a reliable person ) decided
to just check the pads front are rear. Front ones fine, back ones , he felt, needed changing.
Now, I service my own car, after my wife telling me she got all this sorted last year, I thought, this is strage, usually the back ones dont wear half as fast as the front.
Had a look myself, right enough, I'd say they might go for another 10 months, maybe.....
Back pads not changed by the FORD garage????




What do you think?


R

biko

Possibly, maybe.
Take car to Ford and show them the pad and the invoice.

Mad_Mike

All depends on the mileage done in a year
If you're saying they currently look like they might have another 10 months in them, then thats almost 2 years driving, depending on dates etc
I have found in the past that I can get anything from maybe 30,000 miles to 60,000 miles or more on pads depedning on the car, how it's driven etc

raspberrypi67

Mad_Mike wrote: »

All depends on the mileage done in a year
If you're saying they currently look like they might have another 10 months in them, then thats almost 2 years driving, depending on dates etc
I have found in the past that I can get anything from maybe 30,000 miles to 60,000 miles or more on pads depedning on the car, how it's driven etc

No, the breaks were only done last year, travel, 10k at most so...
I've never in all my years see back brakes wear more than front..never...

Mad_Mike

raspberrypi67 wrote: »

No, the breaks were only done last year, travel, 10k at most so...
I've never in all my years see back brakes wear more than front..never...

Sorry. Totally misread the first post. I assume what you mean is that both front AND rear were supposed to have been done last year.

In that case, I'd be the very same. Never seen rear brakes wear out before front, so either they weren't done last year, or there's an issue with brake calipers sticking or something.

raspberrypi67

So, the latest is that my wife brought it to a guy who changed the oil and felt that the pads were not
changed.
Wife rang the Ford garage and explained the findings and of course they said they were definitely changed,' it could be the calipers pushing the pads in more' ,
I think this is Bo@@ix ....


You'd feel more resistenace when driving, more heat build up on the break area, caliper disk etc....
Quick check after a trip in my view would tell you....

Mad_Mike

If sticky caliper caused it, like you said, you would 100% know
I have had that issue with a few cars over the years, and you'll smell it when getting out of the car, feel the heat when walking past the wheel, feel it in braking also

BrianD3

Rear brake pads (and disks for that matter) always seem to wear more quickly on my cars than the fronts. I don't know why this is. I have a theory that it is because of light usage - the rear brakes don't get cleaned and heated like the fronts do and the rears also receive more dirt and spray than the fronts. Result is more rusting and abrasion.

mickdw

A sticking slider could cause the quick wearing of one pad without driving like a siezed brake. If that was the case, one pad would be practically new and one heavily worn.
Strip them and have a look. It should then be fairly clear if they were changed or not.
Also, new discs should have been pretty obvious to you at the time and there is no way they fitted old pads to new discs so did you see the discs at the time?

CJhaughey

Lots of cars have ESP and that can wear the back pads much more than you would expect.

J.R.

Check to see if the pads fitted correctly?

BRAKE PADS ASSEMBLY PRECAUTIONS
WARNING: To ensure correct rear brake operation, it is critical to fit the brake pads correctly as per the diagram below. The rear pads if fitted wrong will give uneven wear, noise and poor performance. The reason is that the caliper construction does not allow for the anti-rattle spring to fit in the outer edge of the caliper bridge and as such does not allow the pad to sit flat to the disc. The inner pad will rattle when the brake is not being applied.

https://www.ferodo.com/support/light-vehicles/installation-guides/rear-brakes-ford-c-max.html

raspberrypi67

mickdw wrote: »

A sticking slider could cause the quick wearing of one pad without driving like a siezed brake. If that was the case, one pad would be practically new and one heavily worn.
Strip them and have a look. It should then be fairly clear if they were changed or not.
Also, new discs should have been pretty obvious to you at the time and there is no way they fitted old pads to new discs so did you see the discs at the time?

Disks were done ok, and they look fine....



Dont see how you can rule out that the previous old pads could have been put back on....
Anyway, her other mechanic said the back pads looked as though they were not changed. Had uniform wear...
No way are the calipers are at fault here....Whats a slider???


I cant see any other logical reason for the back pads wearing faster, infact, to even back up the theory that they were not changed,
her previous service reports always show that ,( in writing ), that the wear on one year was 80% on both, another year was 90% for both .
When you look at the front pads now, this year, they look as if they have just been put on, i'd say wear on the front pads is about 15%...The back look as if they are about 60% worn...!


So explain that one....

raspberrypi67

J.R. wrote: »

Check to see if the pads fitted correctly?

BRAKE PADS ASSEMBLY PRECAUTIONS
WARNING: To ensure correct rear brake operation, it is critical to fit the brake pads correctly as per the diagram below. The rear pads if fitted wrong will give uneven wear, noise and poor performance. The reason is that the caliper construction does not allow for the anti-rattle spring to fit in the outer edge of the caliper bridge and as such does not allow the pad to sit flat to the disc. The inner pad will rattle when the brake is not being applied.

https://www.ferodo.com/support/light-vehicles/installation-guides/rear-brakes-ford-c-max.html

Thanks for that...


yeah, well, I've been servicing my own car for as long as I've been driving, I find it fairly easy, my wife never lets me near her car...lol...I tend to spill oil now and then, women hate that....
Anyway, I dont care, its the excusses the garages come up with is just utter rubbish , jesus, my wife in fairness dident let them away with the Sh1T they were telling her on the phone yesterday, they refused to acknowledge any of what she was telling them, and, they wouldent answer her questions...she's to bring it in on monday!!! They can look at it.

Bunkernumber1

raspberrypi67 wrote: »

Thanks for that...


yeah, well, I've been servicing my own car for as long as I've been driving, I find it fairly easy, my wife never lets me near her car...lol...I tend to spill oil now and then, women hate that....
Anyway, I dont care, its the excusses the garages come up with is just utter rubbish , jesus, my wife in fairness dident let them away with the Sh1T they were telling her on the phone yesterday, they refused to acknowledge any of what she was telling them, and, they wouldent answer her questions...she's to bring it in on monday!!! They can look at it.

they will look at it and tell you yes they where changed and you have a sticking caliper or something of the sort. one thing that they will not do hear is acknowledge that they didnt change the pads. someone asking whats a slider? a slider is the pins that allow the brake caliper to move in and out. sliders do get stuck and need to be un stuck and freed up but im sure the mechanic that is at the car this year has checked that. but anyways the best of luck with it you prob will get a new set of pads out of it . but the will not knowingly admit or acknowledge that they didnt change the pads.
anyway best of luck .

Whocare

come on no garage would put on new disc on without putting new pad on too . The chances of that happening are slim to none .