Unionists

Sunny Disposition

I find them very interesting. They’ve received an awful legacy, their forefathers took the homes and lands of their neighbours forefathers and they’ve grown up defending the indefensible. Like the hardcore Republicans in America, opposition to gay marriage, transgenderism etc.
They’ve already had to deal with Catholics being uppity in the North and getting equal rights, now it looks like they’ll be a minority in their own ‘country’ very soon, maybe at the next census.
What hope for unionists? It seems they face constant decline before Ireland inevitably reunites.

SlowMotion321

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

I find them very interesting. They’ve received an awful legacy, their forefathers took the homes and lands of their neighbours forefathers and they’ve grown up defending the indefensible. Like the hardcore Republicans in America, opposition to gay marriage, transgenderism etc.
They’ve already had to deal with Catholics being uppity in the North and getting equal rights, now it looks like they’ll be a minority in their own ‘country’ very soon, maybe at the next census.
What hope for unionists? It seems they face constant decline before Ireland inevitably reunites.

That's what they get for using condoms!

Pinch Flat

Them protestants. Up to no good again.

afro man

Sympathy.. You obviously never lived in Northern Ireland with them 🔥🇮🇪

CBear1993

The planters will eventually all move back to some sh*thole dive in Scotland. Some may finally embrace what’s inevitable and just put up with it.

The word inclusive is used for the future of Ireland but when you are talking about unionists it’s more complicated. They want us to be inclusive for them but the minute they see a GAA pitch or the slightest thing that doesn’t originate from Britain they kick up a fuss.

So good riddance, back over the water if they so please. They were sent here to disrupt.

Phoenix32

I feel a bit sorry for unionists' unrequited love for the UK. It's sad.

Trigger Happy

The Holy Cross dispute demonstrated to me that there would never be any talking to some of these fruitcakes.

The irony that they cling on to their links with a Britain that would cut them loose at the drop of a sash.

Montage of Feck

As if the Scots would want them back.

Phoenix32

Phoenix32 wrote: »

I feel a bit sorry for unionists' unrequited love for the UK. It's sad.

Especially when the love isn’t returned. Most English just see them as Paddy scum the same as they see us.

UDAWINNER

hateful group, you'll see their true colours when they're burning the tricolours and anything Ireland related on their bonfires over the next few days. Won't care about Social Distancing either but when it was a funeral, have a go. Expect to see a few Bobby Storey pictures on top of their bonfires. Will we hear a word from Arlene and her Ilk, as well as our Govt, nope as they would rather have a go at SF and the nationalist community. Won't be any PSNI Investigations or executive votes either. They are saved for anything SF do.

UDAWINNER

Trigger Happy wrote: »

The Holy Cross dispute demonstrated to me that there would never be any talking to some of these fruitcakes.

The irony that they cling on to their links with a Britain that would cut them loose at the drop of a sash.

the bit where they throwing bottles of piss on children who had the audacity to go to school was the tipping point for me.

CBear1993

UDAWINNER wrote: »

hateful group, you'll see their true colours when they're burning the tricolours and anything Ireland related on their bonfires over the next few days. Won't care about Social Distancing either but when it was a funeral, have a go. Expect to see a few Bobby Storey pictures on top of their bonfires. Will we hear a word from Arlene and her Ilk, as well as our Govt, nope as they would rather have a go at SF and the nationalist community. Won't be any PSNI Investigations or executive votes either. They are saved for anything SF do.

Mind you, there Would be a certain faction of people down here who would only but love to watch SF memorabilia and pictures burned on a bonfire. Maybe even jump in and help the planters throw a bit of petrol on
But they wouldn’t burn the tricolor... oh no, green jersey brigade and all that.

Mongfinder General

The writing on the wall mantra has been around for decades. Unification needs to be passed in both jurisdictions. A border poll would fail today - there Republican vote is at about 20-30% in the North. The SDLP support might add another 10%. Unionists/Loyalist/Alliance Party are unlikely to vote to end the union.
There is a huge assumption in the South that the vote would pass. I'm not so sure on that. Sinn Fein are detested by Fine Gael and some in Fianna Fail. They also feel that there could be retribution following reunification.
Unionists are afraid of three things. Losing their culture. Losing their property. And revenge attacks. And I'm not in a position to assuage their fears. All you have to do is assess the opposition on that score. And white Protestants aren't exactly flavour of the month right now around the globe,
I think money will talk. Unionists might find themselves financially better off in a United Ireland. But the London government could be difficult if they want to be. There is Northern Ireland's share of the U.K national debt. How will that be paid back?

Atlantic Dawn

I do miss the annual Drumcree riots, always a day of entertainment on Sky News, sometimes lasted the whole week.

endacl

CBear1993 wrote: »

The planters will eventually all move back to some sh*thole dive in Scotland. Some may finally embrace what’s inevitable and just put up with it.

The word inclusive is used for the future of Ireland but when you are talking about unionists it’s more complicated. They want us to be inclusive for them but the minute they see a GAA pitch or the slightest thing that doesn’t originate from Britain they kick up a fuss.

So good riddance, back over the water if they so please. They were sent here to disrupt.

Will be some craic when/if Scotland eventually successfully pushes for independence. Where would they go then? English people who would share their mindset will always see them as either ex-paddies or jocks.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

George Best was a unionist... or at least grew up as one. I think he was even in the orange order marching band...

Love Georgie Best...

The perceived insurmountable differences between unionists and nationalists, are really just exaggerated tribal nonsense. Give it 50 years or so, and most of the hard core knuckle draggers on both sides will have died off... they'll be replaced by younger folk with different views/ideas. It also really helps that religion is rapidly dying off on this entire Island... that'll be a huge help for cross community relations up north!

s7ryf3925pivug

I was spat on by an adult because of my school uniform.
I had stones thrown at me at school because a local school took issue with children of their denomination being sent to our school. (Probably because their one had teachera who brought children to another school to throw stones at other children.)
And lots and lots of other minor aggression by strangers.

Unionist scum - that was their attitude, on account of us going to protestant schools (in Dublin).

Motivator

Darren Thankful Wax wrote: »

I was spat on by an adult because of my school uniform.
I had stones thrown at me at school because a local school took issue with children of their denomination being sent to our school. (Probably because their one had teachera who brought children to another school to throw stones at other children.)
And lots and lots of other minor aggression by strangers.

Unionist scum - that was their attitude, on account of us going to protestant schools (in Dublin).

You’re a prod. What do you expect?

SlowMotion321

Darren Thankful Wax wrote: »

I was spat on by an adult because of my school uniform.
I had stones thrown at me at school because a local school took issue with children of their denomination being sent to our school. (Probably because their one had teachera who brought children to another school to throw stones at other children.)
And lots and lots of other minor aggression by strangers.

Unionist scum - that was their attitude, on account of us going to protestant schools (in Dublin).

Anyone who treats kids like that is scum no matter their denomination IMO!

El_Duderino 09

I'm unionist regarding NI. I have no desire to Unify the island either as a single Republic or as part of the UK. It's grand as it is.

I've some empathy for the civil rights movement in NI and the IRA campaign that came from it. If you ask for fair treatment and keep being refused, then I think it becomes fair enough to use violence. But there is broadly fair treatment for people in NI now.

The UK pays a fortune to the NI economy every year and we simply couldn't afford it. So I'd vote for the status quo. Which makes me a unionist regarding NI.

Strumms

Phoenix32 wrote: »

I feel a bit sorry for unionists' unrequited love for the UK. It's sad.

The UK could not give a fûck about them...

Costs them billions a year. Around 11 billion per year I’m reading according to the Irish Times. Security, infrastructure... benefits and so on.

Mongfinder General

Motivator wrote: »

You’re a prod. What do you expect?

I think they might expect to be treated with parity if esteem. Isn't that what Republicans insisted on under the GFA.

Sunny Disposition

Wonder do many unionists see the disgraceful behaviour of Britain in Ireland as disgraceful, the English seem to be able to overlook their historical record.

SlowMotion321

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Wonder do many unionists see the disgraceful behaviour of Britain in Ireland as disgraceful, the English seem to be able to overlook their historical record.

History is written by the victor!

Winty

Motivator wrote: »

You’re a prod. What do you expect?

Can idiots like you stop using the word Prod.

I find it the same as calling a black person a Ni**er

Can Mods please do something?

cian68

Winty wrote: »

Can idiots like you stop using the word Prod.

I find it the same as called a black person a Ni**er

Can Mods please do something?

I assume this is a wind up but from what I've seen in Britain the last few weeks it's impossible to tell

Sunny Disposition

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Wonder do many unionists see the disgraceful behaviour of Britain in Ireland as disgraceful, the English seem to be able to overlook their historical record.

They celebrate it.

Winty

Winty wrote: »

Can idiots like you stop using the word Prod.

I find it the same as called a black person a Ni**er

Can Mods please do something?

God love you.

Winty

cian68 wrote: »

I assume this is a wind up but from what I've seen in Britain the last few weeks it's impossible to tell

Why would you think its a windup

Do you think members of the protestant faith go around calling themselves Prods?

Winty

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

God love you.

So you would walk into a bar in east Belfast and called the barman a Prod?

Winty

Winty wrote: »

Why would you think its a windup

Do you think members of the protestant faith go around calling themselves Prods?

Any I know do, yes.

Winty wrote: »

So you would walk into a bar in east Belfast and called the barman a Prod?

Of course I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t go into a bar in east Belfast anyway. But I won’t clutch my pearls and call for the mods if they use a mean name about me either.

Many here are equating Protestantism with Unionism. You're missing a key point. If it fully split down sectarian lines there would be a UI very close.


However, many Catholics are economic unionists.


But, there's an irony in Protestants being stuck in a statelet run by traditional Catholics. That will not go down well with them. I think unity will happen, and when it does it will come from a sudden catalyst that concentrates minds.

Sunny Disposition

SlowMotion321 wrote: »

History is written by the victor!

It is and it isn’t though, there are historians with very different perspectives on the same events. Some loyalists claim the planters ‘settled’ the north of Ireland, but surely most Unionists know better.

Cork Trucker

Not political in any shape or form, very much pro reunification however.

Ian Paisley admitted yesterday was Irish, Charles Lawson said it’s inevitable, just not in his lifetime. Of the 6 counties only 2, Antrim and Down hold unionist majorities. Even when Derry was part of the partition there was surprise as it was nationalist, different times of course. Let it be on a county by county basis, If the other 4 are majority nationalist let them reunify, I’d be happy to watch Snarlene jump ship. And who can forget that Michelle O’Neill is a Cork born woman. I was in Belfast in 2003, Maysfield, it was like a different country, Newry in 2011 was grand.

Necro

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