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DIY insulation on steeltech shed

  • 27-06-2020 8:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭


    Hi all
    looking into getting a 4m x 3m Steeltech shed at the side of the house. We were quoted the usual extras and to insulate it came to nearly €1200. So I'm wondering if this is a job that you could do yourself and reduce the costs? If anyone on here has done it I'd love to hear the process.
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Ya , I did it on mine including the floor. ( 5 x 3 shed). Its very easily done, just need rigid insulation board and a couple of tubes of glue for the roof panel slabs. Insulation & glue cost me about 500 euro if memory serves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bungaro79


    Thanks. I'm after ordering it without and will do later on if needs be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,873 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Whats the ventilation strategy if its a DIY insulation job?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bungaro79


    Whats the ventilation strategy if its a DIY insulation job?

    That was the main thing I was hoping to find out on here Calahonda! As it'll just be a shed for garden stuff I'm wondering if it would even be needed to be insulated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Steeltech sheds already are somewhat insulated, the extra they sell is Kingspan insulated. If it’s just a garden shed, you don’t need Kingspan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Pod123


    We are in the process of getting one of these with the insulation as we want to use it as a garden/summer house.
    It’s going to have the kingspang insulation,but I would like to do a tongue and groove finish after.
    What is the best way to do this??
    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,873 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    bungaro79 wrote: »
    That was the main thing I was hoping to find out on here Calahonda! As it'll just be a shed for garden stuff I'm wondering if it would even be needed to be insulated

    I don't think so, it has a fairly lining to stop condensation and just keep it well ventilated.
    Insulation only make sense when you have a heat source, due to a piece of science called decrement delay, if the outside temp is low enough for long enough, the shed will achieve the same temperature, through the insulation, especially the rigid PIRs/XPs's etc

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have a steeltech shed and I would like to line it with ply or OSB to make it more useful for hanging things. Would you drill and screw into the metal reinforcement struts - to support a (say 2x1) timber frame? Just something to fix the sheets to. Or is there a better approach? And would I put in some sort of moisture liner under insulation? Its pretty big so its going to require a lot of materials so I don't want to get it wrong!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Purgative


    looksee wrote: »
    I have a steeltech shed and I would like to line it with ply or OSB to make it more useful for hanging things. Would you drill and screw into the metal reinforcement struts - to support a (say 2x1) timber frame? Just something to fix the sheets to. Or is there a better approach? And would I put in some sort of moisture liner under insulation? Its pretty big so its going to require a lot of materials so I don't want to get it wrong!


    Looksee, that's what I did. I put 4x1 boards along the struts and attached them with Tek screws. I just screwed the hooks and shelving to those boards.


    I used this shelving https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0178EBXD8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and this bench https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075ZYN841/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.



    They're quite flimsy but once they're anchored to the shed they're fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I ply lined my shed with 1/2" ply. I wanted to minimize drilling holes into the galv. steel frame so I used a combination of tek screws and panel adhesive to fix 2x1" rough sawn battens to the frame. I then fixed 44x 38mm rough sawn battens vertically to these grounds. all the rough sawn timber was pretty poor quality (as this stuff tends to be) and required a lot of work (with shims etc) to get the framework plumb, straight and true, constantly checking against a string line and using long straightedge and level etc, but well worth the effort. I put 3/4" ply and chipboard (salvaged from other jobs) in between vertical "studs" as required for extra stiffness and as grounds to hold heavier items. Slow work, but you get into a rhythm, hardest part was planning and setting it out, but careful planning out saves on waste.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Highcontrast1


    I ply lined my shed with 1/2" ply. I wanted to minimize drilling holes into the galv. steel frame so I used a combination of tek screws and panel adhesive to fix 2x1" rough sawn battens to the frame. I then fixed 44x 38mm rough sawn battens vertically to these grounds. all the rough sawn timber was pretty poor quality (as this stuff tends to be) and required a lot of work (with shims etc) to get the framework plumb, straight and true, constantly checking against a string line and using long straightedge and level etc, but well worth the effort. I put 3/4" ply and chipboard (salvaged from other jobs) in between vertical "studs" as required for extra stiffness and as grounds to hold heavier items. Slow work, but you get into a rhythm, hardest part was planning and setting it out, but careful planning out saves on waste.

    is that an insulated roof? I am looking to buy those panels for my own garden office build :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    is that an insulated roof? I am looking to buy those panels for my own garden office build :D


    Yes, the whole shed is Kingspan 60mm insulated cladding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭pauldavis123


    The easy way is to use Soudal Fix All to adhere the ply straight to the box cladding, make sure to run the adhesive vertically.

    Fix All is incredibly strong and with ply will add substantially to the overall strength of the shed

    Better is to fir out the shed using either 2" x 1" wood or metal furring channel to the structural members of the shed. You will lose more space doing this thought.

    Insulation for a garden shed that is not habitat is a false economy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I ply lined my shed with 1/2" ply. I wanted to minimize drilling holes into the galv. steel frame so I used a combination of tek screws and panel adhesive to fix 2x1" rough sawn battens to the frame. I then fixed 44x 38mm rough sawn battens vertically to these grounds. all the rough sawn timber was pretty poor quality (as this stuff tends to be) and required a lot of work (with shims etc) to get the framework plumb, straight and true, constantly checking against a string line and using long straightedge and level etc, but well worth the effort. I put 3/4" ply and chipboard (salvaged from other jobs) in between vertical "studs" as required for extra stiffness and as grounds to hold heavier items. Slow work, but you get into a rhythm, hardest part was planning and setting it out, but careful planning out saves on waste.

    That's clever. I might borrow that idea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Nemanrio


    Hi lads, any advice on putting appliances such as a washing machine & a tumble dryer in a steeltech? Does it matter if its a vented or condenser dryer? Would insulation be needed?

    TIA. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭on_the_roots


    You definitely don't need an insulated room to place washing machine or dryer.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    ^^^My thoughts exactly. You may need a vent to allow the condensation from the dryer to escape.



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