New car breaks down 20 minutes after leaving garage

Victor

Do you think the garage will take it back?

https://twitter.com/WYP_RPU/status/1275860418058235904

greasepalm

The coroner is looking into it.

bazz26

It will buff out.

Atlantic Dawn

I wouldn't like to be the owner of the car that hit in to it...nor their insurer, lol.

Toyotafanboi

I wouldnt think they'll be under any obligation to take it back.

"Stopped due to mechanical failure" is fine. Maybe that in itself is something that Lambo wouldn't want and may offer the owner gratuity based on something similar to the old back axle on a Rolls Royce yarn that but the car getting milled is the fault of the person that drove into it IMO.

Never drive so close to the car in front that you couldn't stop in an emergency and all that.

Class MayDresser

Are they two head protectors up behind the seats?

jmreire

If you hit the car in front of you, you will be held responsible 99% of the time........as for the remaining 1%, that would depend on the judge and your legal team.......

Corben Dallas

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Are they two head protectors up behind the seats?

Looks like pop up roll-over bars? interesting...

"Will they take it back" Why? When u roll off the the forecourt its your car and are responsible for it on the road.

Unless they are found liable for putting driver in danger by the car suddenly seizing or something. Also the car who ran into the back of him is most likely at fault.

Victor

There was a case in the UK in the last few years where the driver in front was convicted - they dropped from 50-60mph to 20-30mph on a motorway at rush hour because they were about to miss their exit and they were rear ended.

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Are they two head protectors up behind the seats?

I thought convertibles / soft tops had rollover bars that would be nearly the full width of the vehicle. Those head protectors look inadequate for holding up the whole weight of the vehicle.

Slanty

And how do they know it was a mechanic issue?

New, inexperienced driver for the car. Could have easily pressed the brake pedal if he was very familiar to a clutch.

I feel sorry for the car behind. If that lambo dropped the anchor unexpectedly it would stop quicker than 99% of the cars on the road. It would happen in a flash.

kirving

Victor wrote: »

I thought convertibles / soft tops had rollover bars that would be nearly the full width of the vehicle. Those head protectors look inadequate for holding up the whole weight of the vehicle.

They're rollover protection. Look at the size of a frontal crash structure in a modern chassis, they're not a whole lot smaller than that.

Even this Opel Cascada has a similar setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdOd0fa3w0k

Kevin Irving

Kevin Irving wrote: »

They're rollover protection. Look at the size of a frontal crash structure in a modern chassis, they're not a whole lot smaller than that.

Even this Opel Cascada has a similar setup

Jesus, on the VW at 2:07, the pop up protection thingymajiggy on the left practically bends as it hits the road. :eek: Not very reassuring!

colm_mcm

Poor word choice

ednwireland

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Never drive so close to the car in front that you couldn't stop in an emergency and all that.

ever driven on the m1 in yorkshire ?

Lumen

Kevin Irving wrote: »

They're rollover protection. Look at the size of a frontal crash structure in a modern chassis, they're not a whole lot smaller than that.

Even this Opel Cascada has a similar setup

Presumably the cranial dent at 0:14 will buff out. :eek:

kirving

colm_mcm wrote: »

Poor word choice

"Innocent Motorist" has certainly outraged the usual groups on Twitter, who know nothing of the circumstance. But never let facts get in the way of outrage.

Lamborghini destroys a gear cog, loses power, pulls from lane 4 to lane 3 trying to get off the busy motorway, cuts you off. Then all 4 wheels lock with no brake lights. I challenge anyone who was previously keeping a reasonable distance to the car in front to stop in time.

Lumen wrote: »

Presumably the cranial dent at 0:14 will buff out. :eek:

Not great, but may be the difference between surviving and not.

zilog_jones

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus, on the VW at 2:07, the pop up protection thingymajiggy on the left practically bends as it hits the road. :eek: Not very reassuring!

A lot of crash safety is about absorbing impacts, you don't want a perfectly rigid structure. And for something like that it's better that it is somewhat deformable and not prone to fracturing. It still provides acceptable clearance even when it bends, and you can see in the longer videos it bends back into shape.

...Ghost...

zilog_jones wrote: »

A lot of crash safety is about absorbing impacts, you don't want a perfectly rigid structure. And for something like that it's better that it is somewhat deformable and not prone to fracturing. It still provides acceptable clearance even when it bends, and you can see in the longer videos it bends back into shape.

Exactly this. Before crumple zones (or any built in safety), cars could crash and look relatively unscathed due to their rigidity. The occupants on the other hand would be broken up all over the cabin.

More money than sense. A well deserved lesson learned.

vectra

Funny thing is, I am a member on another forum and quite a few ateca owners in the UK have had their brakes slam on for no reason.
Few of them almost had a rear ended accident.
I haven't come across this in any shape or form, but food for thought?

kirving

Possibly down to the radar controller incorrectly classifying an object.

My car has something called Collision Prevent Assist. It gives a late warning if it thinks I'm about to hit something, but is a basic system that doesn't automatically apply the brakes itself.

It's sometimes confused by reflective signs which are at just the right angle. Systems which can apply the brakes should be far more capable however.

Jimmy Bottlehead

vectra wrote: »

I haven't come across this in any shape or form, but food for thought?

Yeah, it's definitely put me off buying the Lambo as I'd planned :pac:

R.O.R

vectra wrote: »

Funny thing is, I am a member on another forum and quite a few ateca owners in the UK have had their brakes slam on for no reason.
Few of them almost had a rear ended accident.
I haven't come across this in any shape or form, but food for thought?

Happened once to a customer of mine in a Tiguan. Thankfully on an empty suburban street so didn't cause any issues. Nothing logged as a fault and no fault could be found.

Quite a few different electrical gremlins in that vehicle, so it was only one of the many issues it was in and out for.

...Ghost...

R.O.R wrote: »

Happened once to a customer of mine in a Tiguan. Thankfully on an empty suburban street so didn't cause any issues. Nothing logged as a fault and no fault could be found.

Quite a few different electrical gremlins in that vehicle, so it was only one of the many issues it was in and out for.

So, reading between the lines.....Ateca....Tiguan, this random unintended braking is a VW group problem. Imagine this happened to a couple of Teslas. We would hear about it then

Bass Reeves

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I wouldnt think they'll be under any obligation to take it back.

"Stopped due to mechanical failure" is fine. Maybe that in itself is something that Lambo wouldn't want and may offer the owner gratuity based on something similar to the old back axle on a Rolls Royce yarn that but the car getting milled is the fault of the person that drove into it IMO.

Never drive so close to the car in front that you couldn't stop in an emergency and all that.

If the car stopped due to mechanical failure and was hit into by another car there may well be a case that the manufacturer may have to pony up. It over forty years ago now but the brakes failed on a new car and it crashed the manufacturer had to replace the car. If the person who crashed into it can prove that it was because of the mechanical failure it hit the car then liability fall onto the car manufacturers.

Victor

...Ghost... wrote: »

So, reading between the lines.....Ateca....Tiguan, this random unintended braking is a VW group problem. Imagine this happened to a couple of Teslas. We would hear about it then

The problem with Teslas is they don't stop when they should.

antodeco

Victor wrote: »

The problem with Teslas is they don't stop when they should.

What was Wenger thinking sending on the VWs so early

frozenfrozen

they always try and walk it in

...Ghost...

Victor wrote: »

The problem with Teslas is they don't stop when they should.

Ah, the unintended acceleration stories which Tesla were able to prove were driver error in every instance publicised thanks to all the data collected by the car. Nobody wants to admit they pressed the accelerator in error, but it happens.

Don't forget that they were less frequent than other brands, but received way more publicity thanks to a TSLA short seller being behind the complaints made.

Nice try though.

ba_barabus

...Ghost...

OSI wrote: »

Was it not more Tesla's ploughing into trucks under auto pilot because they couldn't see them? because the drivers relied on a driver assistance system to drive for them, rather than being in control of the car the car themselves

Only a complete idiot would rely on the "autopilot" function which Tesla says is a driver aid and NOT a replacement driver. We are not yet at the time when you can have your car take you home from the pub after a few pints of Guinness.

kirving

...Ghost... wrote: »

Only a complete idiot would rely on the "autopilot" function which Tesla says is a driver aid and NOT a replacement driver.

Equally, I could say that "only a complete idiot would think that meat with an Irish flag and "produced in Ireland" would actually believe that the meat came from an Irish cow".

It's marketed as "Autopilot" and Tesla continuously talk about "Full Self Driving Capability", which IMO is misleading, particularly in reference to a safety feature.

...Ghost... wrote: »

We are not yet at the time when you can have your car take you home from the pub after a few pints of Guinness.

Well, some companies actually are at that level, which makes it all the more confusing when assistance features aren't marketed explicitly clearly.