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Planning objection

  • 23-06-2020 10:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    My neighbour has submitted planning permission for a 2 story extension, the 2nd floor window plans show a window at the side of the house which will look into one of my bedrooms and also down into the velux into my extension. The house is a semi detached and I'm not sure how the neighbour on the other side feels..

    I can get over the loss of light and shadows and although it's just me in the house I am concerned by the privacy issue.

    Should I get a professional to assist with an objection?
    Is this a viable objection?

    Thanks in advance


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭pale rider


    Yes of course it is a legitimate objection, Your neighbours are horrid for not speaking to you in advance of submitting plans which could impact your home in such a fashion.

    Now we have established that you need to see what your next steps are.

    I would speak to the neighbours after reviewing plans, outline your concerns, of course they thought about this in advance of submitting plans but they do not give a rats about the impact to your property, you speaking to them is probably pointless but is a necessary step.

    Then, review the local area development plan which is available online, look for the guidelines around extensions, jot down any issues.

    Fire a letter off to the planning authority outlining the impact to your property and its amenities, you may need a report done on shadowing, this is important don't neglect it, your future home buyer may walk away on the basis of shadowing/ lack of light.

    You have no right to privacy as such however you do have the right to have your current amenities in terms of overlooking preserved and a new window that increases existing overlooking significantly will be an issue for approval, don't expect the planner to catch this, it is on you to protect your property.

    I'm so glad to have good neighbours, I'm sorry for the hassle these people are bringing to your door, you dont want it but you have it now so deal with it effectively,

    It is not necessary to employ a professional to make the submission, you must make a submission in order to go to Bord Pleanala, there is an exception as you are an adjoining land owner but I would not rely on that.

    What a shame really, a few minutes discussing their plans would have avoided this, you have to engage now and there goes the neighbourliness.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Cccdublin wrote: »
    My neighbour has submitted planning permission for a 2 story extension, the 2nd floor window plans show a window at the side of the house which will look into one of my bedrooms and also down into the velux into my extension. The house is a semi detached and I'm not sure how the neighbour on the other side feels..

    I can get over the loss of light and shadows and although it's just me in the house I am concerned by the privacy issue.

    Should I get a professional to assist with an objection?
    Is this a viable objection?

    Thanks in advance

    What is the window looking from?
    A bedroom, hall, bathroom etc?

    The post above is a real tear jerker but in reality that’s not really much use.

    The neighbours dont have to talk to you. That’s what the public notices are for and that’s what the observation period is for. Would it have been nice, yes but not required.

    It’s a tricky subject as I’ve been involved in projects where neighbour A spoke to neighbour B about entending. Neighbour A altered their plans to keep B happy. The 5 years later new people moved in and built exactly what A wanted in the first place so neighbour A is now the worse off for doing the nice thing.

    The 2 storey element will be looked at for over bearing, over looking and in particular loss of natural day light. A good guide for this is the BRE 45 degree daylight test. If the extension passes this, then more than likely will be granted.

    The side window at first floor is common in estates, especially if it’s a bathroom or onto a landing which are non habitable rooms so in theory won’t develop into overlooking or loss of privacy, but in turn they are frosted mainly. This could be an option.

    What part of the country is the development in?
    Are there any similar extension in the immediate vicinity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,131 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I would get professional advice asap. It has a huge impact on your future wellbeing and is too important to let pass. Think of yourself and your own wellbeing only.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Window should be opaque. That should be a condition of planning. Maybe the drawing already states this?

    Check why the window can’t just be facing to the rear. Suggest as part of your submission perhaps a skylight could be installed instead of a window.

    You can make A submission yourself only costs a few quid, an arch/eng will prepare letter on your behalf for a few hundred. Be considered in what you write, use the drawings they have submitted and draw/explain the overlooking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭1874


    pale rider wrote: »
    Yes of course it is a legitimate objection, Your neighbours are horrid for not speaking to you in advance of submitting plans which could impact your home in such a fashion.

    Now we have established that you need to see what your next steps are.

    I would speak to the neighbours after reviewing plans, outline your concerns, of course they thought about this in advance of submitting plans but they do not give a rats about the impact to your property, you speaking to them is probably pointless but is a necessary step.

    Then, review the local area development plan which is available online, look for the guidelines around extensions, jot down any issues.

    Fire a letter off to the planning authority outlining the impact to your property and its amenities, you may need a report done on shadowing, this is important don't neglect it, your future home buyer may walk away on the basis of shadowing/ lack of light.

    You have no right to privacy as such however you do have the right to have your current amenities in terms of overlooking preserved and a new window that increases existing overlooking significantly will be an issue for approval, don't expect the planner to catch this, it is on you to protect your property.

    I'm so glad to have good neighbours, I'm sorry for the hassle these people are bringing to your door, you dont want it but you have it now so deal with it effectively,

    It is not necessary to employ a professional to make the submission, you must make a submission in order to go to Bord Pleanala, there is an exception as you are an adjoining land owner but I would not rely on that.

    What a shame really, a few minutes discussing their plans would have avoided this, you have to engage now and there goes the neighbourliness.

    I can see this is an issue where planning exists, but how does a person go about backing up their complaint? what is the specific job description of a person that would be professionally qualified to assess something like this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭1874


    pale rider wrote: »
    Yes of course it is a legitimate objection, Your neighbours are horrid for not speaking to you in advance of submitting plans which could impact your home in such a fashion.

    Now we have established that you need to see what your next steps are.

    I would speak to the neighbours after reviewing plans, outline your concerns, of course they thought about this in advance of submitting plans but they do not give a rats about the impact to your property, you speaking to them is probably pointless but is a necessary step.

    Then, review the local area development plan which is available online, look for the guidelines around extensions, jot down any issues.

    Fire a letter off to the planning authority outlining the impact to your property and its amenities, you may need a report done on shadowing, this is important don't neglect it, your future home buyer may walk away on the basis of shadowing/ lack of light.

    You have no right to privacy as such however you do have the right to have your current amenities in terms of overlooking preserved and a new window that increases existing overlooking significantly will be an issue for approval, don't expect the planner to catch this, it is on you to protect your property.

    I'm so glad to have good neighbours, I'm sorry for the hassle these people are bringing to your door, you dont want it but you have it now so deal with it effectively,

    It is not necessary to employ a professional to make the submission, you must make a submission in order to go to Bord Pleanala, there is an exception as you are an adjoining land owner but I would not rely on that.

    What a shame really, a few minutes discussing their plans would have avoided this, you have to engage now and there goes the neighbourliness.

    I can see this is an issue where planning exists, but how does a person go about backing up their complaint? what is the specific job description of a person that would be professionally qualified to assess something like this?
    what are they called/under in the golden pages?


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