Marrying in Ireland

huud

Hi,

I'm a non-Irish/non-Swiss/non-EU/EEA permanent employee here in Ireland.

I have some questions that need clarification with regards marrying in Ireland, followed by making Join-Family visa application.

Questions relating to Marrying in Ireland:

1. As per INIS website both spouses have to have met face-to-face prior to making the marriage visa application.

My question is if I visit the woman in UK multiple times will that suffice or she has to visit me in Ireland as well (she is a student in the UK and this might not be feasible for her).

2. If she has to visit me in Ireland will she have to apply for an ordinary visit visa then visit me, then go back and apply for marriage visa and then come back for the marriage, this is how I understand it.

Question relating to applying for Join-Visa as an international student in the UK:

Once, and if, the marriage has taken place in Ireland, she will return to the UK for her studies and apply for Join-Family visa.

My question is if the spouse is an international student in the UK (also non-Irish/non-Swiss/non-EU/EEA), can she apply for Join-Visa as a student from the UK or will she have to return to her home country to make this application. And if she can apply as a student then how long must her visa be valid in the UK before she can apply the Join-Visa.

Thank You

Sonrisa

1. sufficient for you to visit her in the UK. Keep records, plane tickets, take photos etc to give with your visa application. Best to have two separate face to face visits before you get married.

2. If you want to get married here, she should apply for a marriage visa. You will have to give three months notice anyway, and possibly attend for an interview at the registrar's office.

3. If she is legally resident in the UK, she puts down that her current location is the UK when making the visa application and should be able to make the application from there. Bear in mind Join Family visas take upwards of a year to process.

huud

Thanks Sonrisa,

Just that by legal UK resident means of any visa type, or do you mean permanent resident.

ohnonotgmail

are you planning to marry someone you haven't met yet?

huud

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are you planning to marry someone you haven't met yet?

No, I'm planning to meet her in the UK multiple times to establish compatibility, and then she can visit and marry me in Ireland if she finds me compatible. Because we have had sufficient initial audio and video conversations to determine initial compatibility.

ohnonotgmail

huud wrote: »

No, I'm planning to meet her in the UK multiple times to establish compatibility, and then she can visit and marry me in Ireland if she finds me compatible. Because we have had sufficient initial audio and video conversations to determine initial compatibility.

so you are thinking ahead to marriage to someone you have not yet met in person. the marriage registrar might take a dim view of that and consider that it might be a marriage of convenience.

huud

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you are thinking ahead to marriage to someone you have not yet met in person. the marriage registrar might take a dim view of that and consider that it might be a marriage of convenience.

I believe I'm not explaining good, I will be meeting her in person more than once, then if we find each other compatible then we will be getting married.

We will be meeting a few times before marrying.

stargazer 68

huud wrote: »

I believe I'm not explaining good, I will be meeting her in person more than once, then if we find each other compatible then we will be getting married.

We will be meeting a few times before marrying.

Op bear in mind you need to give 3 months notice to the Registrar - currently these are on hold. Im not sure when appointments are starting up again. You will need to attend (both of you) to the office for your appointment and bring a lot of documents with you - they will send you a list.

You will then both be interviewed separately to ensure that your information matches - I have heard them ask where you met, have you met each others families etc and then you will be interviewed together.

Its not a simple case of we meet a couple of times, are compatible so get married.

The visa questions I don't know but that's the process for a marriage cert.

huud

stargazer 68 wrote: »

Op bear in mind you need to give 3 months notice to the Registrar - currently these are on hold. Im not sure when appointments are starting up again. You will need to attend (both of you) to the office for your appointment and bring a lot of documents with you - they will send you a list.

You will then both be interviewed separately to ensure that your information matches - I have heard them ask where you met, have you met each others families etc and then you will be interviewed together.

Its not a simple case of we meet a couple of times, are compatible so get married.

The visa questions I don't know but that's the process for a marriage cert.

Thanks for clarifying, appreciate that.

Family meeting is happening in Ireland this week.

skooterblue2

huud wrote: »

I believe I'm not explaining good, I will be meeting her in person more than once, then if we find each other compatible then we will be getting married.

We will be meeting a few times before marrying.

Oh man.... I am not a lawyer. Do NOT get married for anything less than true love. marriage is something very easy into and very difficult to undo. It is not for the meek or the faint of heart. The first year is very tough. It is much easier in that out. I am married and things change is many senses and get complicated.

ohnonotgmail

huud wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying, appreciate that.

Family meeting is happening in Ireland this week.

by family meeting you mean meeting this other person for the first time?

huud

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

by family meeting you mean meeting this other person for the first time?

Sorry did not understand your question.

But I'm meeting the girl's brother here in Ireland as he resides here with his wife, if he gives the approval, then I'll be meeting with the girl in the UK.

ohnonotgmail

huud wrote: »

Sorry did not understand your question.

But I'm meeting the girl's brother here in Ireland as he resides here with his wife, if he gives the approval, then I'll be meeting with the girl in the UK.

would i be correct in thinking that this is an arranged marriage?

huud

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

would i be correct in thinking that this is an arranged marriage?

Yes, its an arranged marriage, and the girl is 28 years of age, and will be the one to decide and not her brother, her brother is meeting to be certain I'm not a questionable person, as in I am what I claim to be, have a job and can provide for the girl.

huud

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

would i be correct in thinking that this is an arranged marriage?

Can I know if there is an issue with arranged marriages.

Thanks.

Pronto63

huud wrote: »

Can I know if there is an issue with arranged marriages.

Thanks.

No issue but you must prove to INIS that the marriage is genuine and not one of convenience.

You must submit documents and photos to prove actual meetings, any financial support etc.

huud

Pronto63 wrote: »

No issue but you must prove to INIS that the marriage is genuine and not one of convenience.

You must submit documents and photos to prove actual meetings, any financial support etc.

Appreciate clarifying that, thanks.

Peregrinus

huud wrote: »

Can I know if there is an issue with arranged marriages.

Thanks.

Arranged marriages are fine. It's forced marriages and marriages of convenience that are a problem.

There could be a suspicion that, if a marriage is evidently arranged, there might also be an element of compulsion and/or convenience. So expect a degree of scrutiny on that point.

huud

Peregrinus wrote: »

Arranged marriages are fine. It's forced marriages and marriages of convenience that are a problem.

There could be a suspicion that, if a marriage is evidently arranged, there might also be an element of compulsion and/or convenience. So expect a degree of scrutiny on that point.

Nice points, thanks.

From my conversation with the girl she is the final decision maker.