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Calving camera setup

  • 14-06-2020 8:29am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭


    Hi all

    I have wifi in shed via a tp link
    And am now going buying a hikvision ptz camera

    Does anyone know how to connect camera
    Can I just run a cat cable from camera direct to tp link

    Then down load hikvision app and view and control it trough that with phone

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    kerb wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have wifi in shed via a tp link
    And am now going buying a hikvision ptz camera

    Does anyone know how to connect camera
    Can I just run a cat cable from camera direct to tp link

    Then down load hikvision app and view and control it trough that with phone

    Thanks

    yes you can cable it or it might work direct off the wifi ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    kerb wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have wifi in shed via a tp link
    And am now going buying a hikvision ptz camera

    Does anyone know how to connect camera
    Can I just run a cat cable from camera direct to tp link

    Then down load hikvision app and view and control it trough that with phone

    Thanks

    When you get your camera, google a YouTube set up of its model number
    Pick the best one and follow the instructions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Thanks a mil
    Was thinking of this camera

    https://www.freetv.ie/ptz-camera/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Try amazon
    This is the one I bought
    It has it's own app,higher definition and great zoom

    I can read a tag on it and it's in the roof of a 5 bay shed
    No bother zooming right in on the far end of the shed and full 360

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    kerb wrote: »
    Thanks a mil
    Was thinking of this camera

    https://www.freetv.ie/ptz-camera/

    Will you have to put power points beside every camera or can you power them through the cat5 cable?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Will you have to put power points beside every camera or can you power them through the cat5 cable?

    Don't know to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Try amazon
    This is the one I bought
    It has it's own app,higher definition and great zoom

    I can read a tag on it and it's in the roof of a 5 bay shed
    No bother zooming right in on the far end of the shed and full 360

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8

    Has that one night vision as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    Will you have to put power points beside every camera or can you power them through the cat5 cable?

    Cat 5 cable won't power your camera anyway, it's only carry data. When you say you have internet via tp link, is that a tp link powerline adaptor or a to link router?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Tp link power line adapter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    kerb wrote: »
    Tp link power line adapter

    I used them before of my camera, unfortunately I found them too unreliable. I ended up running a cat 5 cable from the house for a stable signal. But obviously every house isn't wired the same so would be no harm trying out the power line first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    kerb wrote: »
    Thanks a mil
    Was thinking of this camera

    https://www.freetv.ie/ptz-camera/

    very expensive, shop around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    endainoz wrote: »
    I used them before of my camera, unfortunately I found them too unreliable. I ended up running a cat 5 cable from the house for a stable signal. But obviously every house isn't wired the same so would be no harm trying out the power line first.

    Were you working of wifi or cat cable to plug


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    kerb wrote: »
    Were you working of wifi or cat cable to plug

    Ended up running a cat cable from the router in the home house to another router in the shed. One camera runs off a cat cable coming from the router in the shed and the other one work off wi fi. I also have the lights from the shed connected to it and the mains fencer is on a smart plug. All of which can work from my phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    endainoz wrote: »
    Ended up running a cat cable from the router in the home house to another router in the shed. One camera runs off a cat cable coming from the router in the shed and the other one work off wi fi. I also have the lights from the shed connected to it and the mains fencer is on a smart plug. All of which can work from my phone.

    Yes heard about working lights and fence of that system, great job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    kerb wrote: »
    Yes heard about working lights and fence of that system, great job

    It is and in fairness it's not overly complicated to set up either. There are lads getting fleeced by people installing cameras for them thinking they are getting a great deal when it's something a lot of lads could easily do themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭emaherx


    endainoz wrote: »
    Cat 5 cable won't power your camera anyway, it's only carry data. When you say you have internet via tp link, is that a tp link powerline adaptor or a to link router?

    CAT5 Ethernet cable can be used for power and data, it's called Power over Ethernet (POE).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    kerb wrote: »
    Has that one night vision as well

    Yeah, good night vision
    Have it powered over ethernet cable
    The poe injector is included as is a power cable so you can use either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    orm0nd wrote: »
    very expensive, shop around

    For the hikvision I tought is want to bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    emaherx wrote: »
    CAT5 Ethernet cable can be used for power and data, it's called Power over Ethernet (POE).

    Ah I stand corrected! Every day a school day as they say.


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    emaherx wrote: »
    CAT5 Ethernet cable can be used for power and data, it's called Power over Ethernet (POE).

    Just to add, you will need to get a POE switch in order to power a camera it doesn’t just work with a normal router or switch. They aren’t expensive though and can be used with normal devices also as they detect if POE is needed and only send out power if it is.

    POE is the best and handiest way to power cameras as you only have to run one cable and it’s also much better to have a wired connection going to your camera rather than WiFi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Just to add, you will need to get a POE switch in order to power a camera it doesn’t just work with a normal router or switch. They aren’t expensive though and can be used with normal devices also as they detect if POE is needed and only send out power if it is.

    POE is the best and handiest way to power cameras as you only have to run one cable and it’s also much better to have a wired connection going to your camera rather than WiFi.

    Ok , so if I run cat cable to poe then 2 cables run from that to camera is that correct


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kerb wrote: »
    Ok , so if I run cat cable to poe then 2 cables run from that to camera is that correct

    A cable runs from your router to the switch and a single cable from the switch to the camera. The single cable provides data and power.

    This is the switch we are currently using: TP-Link TL-SG1005P 5-Port Gigabit PoE Ethernet Switch (4 PoE Ports, 56 Watt Budget, No Configuration Required) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0769C24T1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qH05EbX0PK15A

    You can get cheaper ones too but I got a gigabit switch for future proofing.

    Just make sure the camera you buy works with Poe as while most do some don’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    A cable runs from your router to the switch and a single cable from the switch to the camera. The single cable provides data and power.

    This is the switch we are currently using: TP-Link TL-SG1005P 5-Port Gigabit PoE Ethernet Switch (4 PoE Ports, 56 Watt Budget, No Configuration Required) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0769C24T1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qH05EbX0PK15A

    You can get cheaper ones too but I got a gigabit switch for future proofing.

    Just make sure the camera you buy works with Poe as while most do some don’t.

    Would there be any issue having the switch in a slatted shed (dust etc)


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would there be any issue having the switch in a slatted shed (dust etc)

    I wouldn't leave it out in the open as it could be an issue with dust, or rain blowing in (for open fronted shed), water from power hosing etc etc.

    We have a switch and router in the shed protected inside a plastic wall mounted box with the cables (power and ethernet) feeding though into it. There is a little dust still inside the box but not much and no issues for us and its been running a few years now. We are on the second switch but that failed after a thunder storm so is almost certainly down to a surge related failure.

    I can't find a link at the minute for the type of box we have but you will see lots of different types around online that would do the job, just has to be big enough, sealed (but openable), have feed though for the cables etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    I wrote a piece on cameras and different setups a while back the video at the bottom of the page might be some help
    https://blackfieldfarm.com/how-to-set-up-a-wifi-camera/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    Help needed, so my hikvision camera arrived today I tought I could do this to set it up, powered up camera and connected cat cable from camera to router downloaded app , registered and tried to add device got as far as scan qr code , it wont reconoise it , have I left a process out or any advice please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    kerb wrote: »
    Help needed, so my hikvision camera arrived today I tought I could do this to set it up, powered up camera and connected cat cable from camera to router downloaded app , registered and tried to add device got as far as scan qr code , it wont reconoise it , have I left a process out or any advice please

    Are you getting internet from the router? Might have to get into router settings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    endainoz wrote: »
    Are you getting internet from the router? Might have to get into router settings.

    Well the wifi on router is working


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭endainoz


    kerb wrote: »
    Well the wifi on router is working

    When you say wifi, you mean your getting data through it from a speed test? Like it might show connected to WiFi but have no actual data going through it, if that makes sense?

    The QR code scanning can be a pain sometimes aswell, the lighting needs to be perfect for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kerb


    endainoz wrote: »
    When you say wifi, you mean your getting data through it from a speed test? Like it might show connected to WiFi but have no actual data going through it, if that makes sense?

    The QR code scanning can be a pain sometimes aswell, the lighting needs to be perfect for it.

    Thanks for reply I meant my wifi on phone is working through same router, does camera have to be set up online tought computer or laptop first ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭emaherx


    you should be able to set it up, with on screen menu's without connecting a laptop (but it may help to confirm network connectivity). Check that it has been assigned an IP address from the Network menu.


    If you know its IP you can try connecting to directly from your laptop by typing the IP into a web browser. Internet Explorer works best with Hikvision.


    If you don't know its IP or know if its connected and assigned an IP by the network, download an app called fing on your phone and it will scan the entire network and tell you the IP Addresses of every device on your network.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    kerb wrote: »
    Help needed, so my hikvision camera arrived today I tought I could do this to set it up, powered up camera and connected cat cable from camera to router downloaded app , registered and tried to add device got as far as scan qr code , it wont reconoise it , have I left a process out or any advice please
    Id try a different app, Im sure there are other generic ones you could try that would successfully scan code and recognise device.


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