New tractor

Alfaromeo

Hi guys , im new to boards so i hope im doing this right. Im looking for a 110 hp new tractor , i will only buy new . Im want a mechanical tractor which is not loaded with electrics , reliable and decent resale . I have a zetor 7441 proxima 2008 model , in good nick with 4000 hours . I can get a 110 hp zetor proxima new for 37 k with my own . My current tractor has rossmore fl45 and the new zetor will have rossmore fl 60. So 37 k changes from zetor to zetor , what ye think , im open to pricing other brands , what would ye recommend in terms of a good 110 hp tractor which would cost similar to change as what i have been quoted

Water John

Tumosan might be worth checking out.

Grueller

Kubota wont be far off that price bracket either. Good deals to be done on them when they are trying to claim their market share

Reggie.

Water John wrote: »

Tumosan might be worth checking out.

Think 40k new with no frills

Keep Sluicing

If there is a dealer within an hour of you, Kubota would definitely be worth looking into.

cute geoge

why does it have to be brand new ,there are plenty high spec low hours main brand tractors for sale a couple of years old .For what you are willing to spend I would be looking for a tractor with some sort of suspension ,

mayota

What are they allowing you on the 7441?

memorystick

350 hours per year doesn’t seem to be a lot For a new tractor. How would leasing compare for so few hours. I assume it’s for tax reasons.

hopeso

New Holland TD5, and the equivalent Case model, are fairly basic and mechanical. Might be worth a look anyway....

Alfaromeo

mayota wrote: »

What are they allowing you on the 7441?

The local zetor dealer allowing me 25 k on mine

Alfaromeo

memorystick wrote: »

350 hours per year doesn’t seem to be a lot For a new tractor. How would leasing compare for so few hours. I assume it’s for tax reasons.

Your dead right there it has to be new for the tax implications

Bazzer007

I agree Kubota are a good make & used to offer 0% finance a few years ago. Not sure if they still do. I suppose it comes down to getting the best price you can. Best of luck.

trg

Alfaromeo wrote: »

Your dead right there it has to be new for the tax implications

Why does it have to be new for tax reasons?

lab man

Grueller wrote: »

Kubota wont be far off that price bracket either. Good deals to be done on them when they are trying to claim their market share

Bought a 142 kub 135 there 3 weeks ago happy with it great power levers a bit far away though only fault

tanko

lab man wrote: »

Bought a 142 kub 135 there 3 weeks ago happy with it great power levers a bit far away though only fault

Who supplies their engines?

addaword

tanko wrote: »

Who supplies their engines?

I always thought it was a Japanese brand and they make their own engines.
I was talking to someone who has a Kubota recently and he seems happy enough with his. He said he heard Kubota also makes engines in China, Indonesia and Thailand for local consumption. They are still very rare about these parts but I hear it is a growing brand.

selectamatic

tanko wrote: »

Who supplies their engines?

They make their own or at least they did, not sure if this has changed in new models, I doubt it though.

Supposed to be gutsy yet economical lumps. Reliable as well.

memorystick

trg wrote: »

Why does it have to be new for tax reasons?

Are there not better ways?

maidhc

memorystick wrote: »

350 hours per year doesn’t seem to be a lot For a new tractor. How would leasing compare for so few hours. I assume it’s for tax reasons.

I'll give you a worked example of ownership of a tractor bought new on this farm that does about 300 hours a year:

NH TS115 bought in 2000 for the equivalent of €50,000
Value today in perfect condition, 600 hours, €25,000

Cost per annum 25,000/20: €1,250
Per hour 25000/6000: €4.16

(if one assumes the tractor was written off against the higher rate of tax, which it was, then those figures drop to about zero, and the machine is still a valuable asset)

The best thing is that it is is only about 1/3 through its working life, and if looked after will see me out which is not bad considering I was in secondary school when it was bought...

endainoz

I'd say stick with zetor seen as your used to using them. A higher spec proxima would suit.

lakill Farm

Alfaromeo wrote: »

Your dead right there it has to be new for the tax implications

did you look into capital allowance balancing charge on the trade in?

memorystick

What did Alfaromeo do?

trg

memorystick wrote: »

Are there not better ways?

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing and all but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't have to be new. The depreciation will be dictated by the cost of the replacement tractor (whether new or not) and the trade in value of the outgoing tractor

lakill Farm

trg wrote: »

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing and all but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't have to be new. The depreciation will be dictated by the cost of the replacement tractor (whether new or not) and the trade in value of the outgoing tractor

Depreciation is not an allowable tax expense

Capital allowance is and is calculated on tractor at 12.5% or equally over 8 years

Buford T. Justice XIX

memorystick wrote: »

What did Alfaromeo do?

Mod note: Apparently a banned rereg so I'm going to close this one up pending an appeal.

Buford T. Justice.