Opinions, please! Skoda Superb 2012

BOBIDGE

I was going to look at this over the week:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/full-service-historyskoda-superb-1-6tdi-ambiti/24984970

Does anyone have any opinions or suggestions? Driving 30k miles a year. Reliability is the number one priority.

Imagine you would want to possibly factor in a timing belt and pump? Yet to ask dealer. Cost c.800e?

Would prefer the 1.9. Dies the 1.6 do the job?

I will ask around to get a mechanic to check out.

Thanks!

Heres Johnny

BOBIDGE wrote: »

I was going to look at this over the week:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/full-service-historyskoda-superb-1-6tdi-ambiti/24984970

Does anyone have any opinions or suggestions? Driving 30k miles a year. Reliability is the number one priority.

Imagine you would want to possibly factor in a timing belt and pump? Yet to ask dealer. Cost c.800e?

Would prefer the 1.9. Dies the 1.6 do the job?

I will ask around to get a mechanic to check out.

Thanks!

The 1.6 does the job but it's a little sluggish if you try to push it at all

mgbgt1978

The good news is...


....the emissions recall HAS NOT been carried out on this Car. That is a plus point for most people.

BOBIDGE

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

The good news is...


....the emissions recall HAS NOT been carried out on this Car. That is a plus point for most people.

Some reading to do on that issue!!

mgbgt1978

Timing Belt should have been carried out at 130k. If it wasn't done you might wonder what else was skipped.

Decent Independents will do it for less than €500 inc all parts.

BOBIDGE

Thanks all.

Yeah, factoring a belt and water pump into price. Skoda do it for 450e, which is lower than expected.

Toyotafanboi

Personally, on a healthy car I think the emissions update is a plus as VAG stand over the car for a number of years after the update and give 100% goodwill towards things that popularly failed on the 1.6 engine long before the update ever existed like EGR coolers and injectors.

Belt interval on those engines is 210k kms or 5 years.

I've got the same engine in a golf and has done around 60k kms since the update, no issues whatsoever. I know one swallow doesn't make a summer but sure.

mgbgt1978

In fairness TFB, there was a very sizable increase in Injector/EGR/DPF issues with VAG Cars which had the emission fix carried out.
Basically VW were forcing an Engine to meet emissions levels that it was never designed to meet.

Also the majority of recalls were carried out in 2016/2017 and were 'warrante'ed' for two years. So, most of the fixed cars are now out of warranty*.
It was never a proper warranty, just a 'goodwill gesture'. It was also dependent on the Car being serviced and maintained according to VW's standards (many Dealers will argue that this infers a full Main Dealer Service History).
Looking at this particular Superb, the OP says he will cover 30k per annum. Even if he were to get the Fix done now the Goodwill will only last for 12 months. If the Car is OK now (personally I'd check the DPF Ash Level 1st) he's better off taking the chance.





*The Trust Building Measure expires after two years, or when the mileage hits 160,000 (whichever comes 1st).

BOBIDGE

Car was sold so back to the drawing board, unfortunately!

Thanks again for all of the replies.

Toyotafanboi

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

In fairness TFB, there was a very sizable increase in Injector/EGR/DPF issues with VAG Cars which had the emission fix carried out.
Basically VW were forcing an Engine to meet emissions levels that it was never designed to meet.

Also the majority of recalls were carried out in 2016/2017 and were 'warrante'ed' for two years. So, most of the fixed cars are now out of warranty*.
It was never a proper warranty, just a 'goodwill gesture'. It was also dependent on the Car being serviced and maintained according to VW's standards (many Dealers will argue that this infers a full Main Dealer Service History).
Looking at this particular Superb, the OP says he will cover 30k per annum. Even if he were to get the Fix done now the Goodwill will only last for 12 months. If the Car is OK now (personally I'd check the DPF Ash Level 1st) he's better off taking the chance.





*The Trust Building Measure expires after two years, or when the mileage hits 160,000 (whichever comes 1st).

You dont need to tell me, I was there during the whole thing.

Of course there was going to be a surge of failures immediately after the update was announced, every single affected car was recalled within a very short space of time and truth be told in a bit of a panic.

I wouldn't say it was sizeable in the broader spectrum though. Anything that drove out the door after the update pretty much stayed gone with the exception of a handful of semi basket cases. Mostly it was either **** heaps that died before ever leaving the workshop, or healthy stuff that is still going to this day and only a minority in the middle ground.

The two years is a commitment indeed but if you push for it, you will still get coverage from the group. You are right in saying though that most stuff was updated in late 16, early 17 but would it not be fair to say in the same vein that anything that was updated 4 years ago and is still driving today probably is ok. I've never personally seen a car refused on the basis of service history and I've dealt with hundreds.

colm_mcm

You’d be mental to get the update done on a car at this stage IMO.

bazz26

I've just find a 2.0 litre, it's miles better than the 1.6 litre in a car the size and weight of a Superb. I'd hate to doing 30k miles a year in a miserable 1.6 litre engined car that size.

BOBIDGE

Yeah, I think I agree 're 1.6 vs 1.9. I have narrowed it down to the the bigger now.

Was going to chase these later:

Auto:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-superb-elegance-2-0-cr-tdi-170bhp-auto/24912569

Manuel:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/10-skoda-superb-1-9tdi-105bhp-huge-spec-nct-03-22/23908428?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social

Never driven the auto so interested to see how it drives.

Odyssey 2005

BOBIDGE wrote: »

Yeah, I think I agree 're 1.6 vs 1.9. I have narrowed it down to the the bigger now.

Was going to chase these later:

Auto:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-superb-elegance-2-0-cr-tdi-170bhp-auto/24912569

Manuel:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/10-skoda-superb-1-9tdi-105bhp-huge-spec-nct-03-22/23908428?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social

Never driven the auto so interested to see how it drives.

The autos are lovely to drive. Smooth and powerful, easy on fuel too when mated with the 170hp. 9 owners !!!
I picked up a beauty in march 2010 with 210k for 3300. One owner car.
Keep looking.

BOBIDGE

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

The autos are lovely to drive. Smooth and powerful, easy on fuel too when mated with the 170hp. 9 owners !!!
I picked up a beauty in march 2010 with 210k for 3300. One owner car.
Keep looking.

Just spotted that - no idea how I missed the 9 owners!

That's a very good price. High miles but the cars are well capable (once minded). Would ideally buy the auto but scarce on the ground.

bazz26

The 1.9 isn't much quicker than the 1.6 but it has a narrower power band. The 1.9 TDi engine fitted to the Mk2 Superb may also be the infamous BXE engine which is known to throw a rod and **** itself.

Odyssey 2005

BOBIDGE wrote: »

Just spotted that - no idea how I missed the 9 owners!

That's a very good price. High miles but the cars are well capable (once minded). Would ideally buy the auto but scarce on the ground.

Their certainly capable of high mileage. My 09 had 380k when if got written off whilst parked up. Looked and drove like a '16 car. Never once missed a best. Servicing is key.