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Renovate/refurbish 150 year old gardener's cottage

  • 28-05-2020 1:59pm
    #1
    shedpaddock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭


    Is planning permission needed to renovate/refurbish a 150 year old gardener's cottage, in the garden of an existing house, using existing septic tank, water and electricity?


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  • #2
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    shedpaddock wrote: »
    Is planning permission needed to renovate/refurbish a 150 year old gardener's cottage, in the garden of an existing house, using existing septic tank, water and electricity?

    Is the cottage still habitable, and when was the last time that someone actually lived in it.


  • #3
    shedpaddock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭shedpaddock


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Is the cottage still habitable, and when was the last time that someone actually lived in it.

    The cottage is not currently habitable and it has been approximately 100 years since someone actually lived in it.


  • #4
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Planning required


  • #5
    shedpaddock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭shedpaddock


    BryanF wrote: »
    Planning required

    On what basis is planning required?


  • #6
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    shedpaddock wrote: »
    On what basis is planning required?

    Legally it's effectivly a vacant site.


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  • #7
    BryanF
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    shedpaddock wrote: »
    The cottage is not currently habitable and it has been approximately 100 years since someone actually lived in it.

    .


  • #8
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,240 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Is a 'holiday home' a vacant site?

    127 year old granite stable, converted into a habitable state in 1960.

    Would one need planning permission to modernise it, given it's had people living in it, albeit for brief lengths of time?


  • #9
    Yellow_Fern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    What is the floor area? It can be a shed without being legally a dwelling but you could not exactly move in.


  • #10
    Yellow_Fern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Is a 'holiday home' a vacant site?

    127 year old granite stable, converted into a habitable state in 1960.

    Would one need planning permission to modernise it, given it's had people living in it, albeit for brief lengths of time?
    It might be useful to figure to check what year in the 1960s, as pre 63 would have some impact.


  • #11
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,240 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yellow_Fern wrote: »
    It might be useful to figure to check what year in the 1960s, as pre 63 would have some impact.

    It was 1960 - 61. What would be the impact? They stuck sash windows in it so I would be hoping for as little external input as possible.


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  • #12
    Yellow_Fern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    cnocbui wrote: »
    It was 1960 - 61. What would be the impact? They stuck sash windows in it so I would be hoping for as little external input as possible.
    There are more knowledgeable people than me here but basically means pre planning.


  • #13
    lalababa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭lalababa


    There was a time that if the roof was there you were grand. Being 'habitable' is an opinion. As an aside.. you don't pay house tax if it does not have a kitchen.. especially a kitchen tap and sink. All that aside , if it was inhabited as a house in past times and looks like a house/not a shed...then it is a house. And you can easily make this case.
    Say nothing to nobody and work away. ðŸ˜


  • #14
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,240 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    lalababa wrote: »
    There was a time that if the roof was there you were grand. Being 'habitable' is an opinion. As an aside.. you don't pay house tax if it does not have a kitchen.. especially a kitchen tap and sink. All that aside , if it was inhabited as a house in past times and looks like a house/not a shed...then it is a house. And you can easily make this case.
    Say nothing to nobody and work away. ðŸ˜

    It has a kitchen and bathroom, which were part of the things done in 1960/1.


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