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IT Gurus - Help please !!

  • 27-05-2020 2:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭


    Data from ICBF.com
    Maybe some of you IT guys could help me on this? I'm trying to make my own cow/bull matcher using MS Excel. I want to compare ICBF data for my own cows and match them to bulls available and see how the offspring would look.

    I've most of it done, but I have a problem with reading the Linear Data. Is there any way to automatically read these values in the pop-up windows?
    Attached for example is a pic showing the linear data for ZGM. The height at the withers is 34 percentile. The data doesn't seem to be available anywhere else to download.

    Click on 'Linear Type' tab;
    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1019715459

    Thanks


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Try the computer forums. You might have better luck. But you might need to explain to them what a cow is :)


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm sure they think they know what a cow is but you might have to explain the difference between a cow and a bull and why that is important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,717 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Unless the raw data is available to download I don’t beleive the information in the pop up can automatically be downloaded. There is probably some fancy script like a screen scraper that might do it but for mere mortals like ourselves I don’t think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Need the Raw data for this.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I've most of it done, but I have a problem with reading the Linear Data. Is there any way to automatically read these values in the pop-up windows?
    Attached for example is a pic showing the linear data for ZGM. The height at the withers is 34 percentile. The data doesn't seem to be available anywhere else to download.

    Click on 'Linear Type' tab;
    https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1019715459
    Am i correct in thinking that you wish to read the alt text that appears when you hover over the chart on the ICF website?
    Even the basic HTML source code doesn't contain the term withers but it's using javaScript to collect that data from a server based on choices - this would make it more difficult to scrape the data you're looking for.
    Does the ICF supply raw data?
    I'm sure they think they know what a cow is but you might have to explain the difference between a cow and a bull and why that is important.
    Having a degree in Ag and a MSc in IT is actually a thing!


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  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP What version of Excel have you got? there are several , 2010, 2013, 2016 , 2019. and Excel 365. Maybe pop that in here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe



    Am i correct in thinking that you wish to read the alt text that appears when you hover over the chart on the ICF website? Yes, that's right.
    Even the basic HTML source code doesn't contain the term withers but it's using javaScript to collect that data from a server based on choices - this would make it more difficult to scrape the data you're looking for.

    Does the ICF supply raw data?
    Yes, but ICBF combines all those pop-up figures into composite values known as 'Functionality', Muscle & Skeletal. Composite data is avilable here (the first Excel File linked)
    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Would a vertical or horizontal lookup table solve it for you. That is if I am reading yyour request properly. If this is the case you could edit out all the unwanted information in the ICBF file, just retain the SIRES and FUNCTIONALITY data that your are only interested in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Would a vertical or horizontal lookup table solve it for you. That is if I am reading yyour request properly. If this is the case you could edit out all the unwanted information in the ICBF file, just retain the SIRES and FUNCTIONALITY data that your are only interested in.

    I've done all that. I used the VLOOKUP function. The problem is all the other values that make up the finctionality figure are not in the Excel file. They are only available visually on the webpage.

    I suppose it would lead to information overload, if ICBF put them in the file. Maybe that's their reason for not doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I did a trial run of converting the ICBF data to excel.

    I have Adobe Acrobat Professional software.

    The steps I took were:

    I right clicked on the ICBF linear tab page, selected print option , and saved the page as PDF.
    I then opened the file in Acrobat, and saved the acrobat file under the Excel spreadsheet option.
    I have opened this in Excel, and it is editable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    I did a trial run of converting the ICBF data to excel.

    I have Adobe Acrobat Professional software.

    The steps I took were:

    I right clicked on the ICBF linear tab page, selected print option , and saved the page as PDF.
    I then opened the file in Acrobat, and saved the acrobat file under the Excel spreadsheet option.
    I have opened this in Excel, and it is editable.

    There are websites that will convert pdf to excel format too.
    Small pdf is the one I tend to use


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