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Aer Corps Helicopter Door Falls Off mid flight

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭FluffPiece


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Steer55


    Thank God, no body was killed. The consequences don't bear thinking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭FluffPiece


    Not the first time this has happened either is it, I think about 10 years or so ago a similar incident with a minister on board if I recall correctly.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Does my memory decieve me or is this the second time I have heard of this happening?

    What is it about these door mechanisms that they are not designed to eh... stay on??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭faoiarvok


    Does my memory decieve me or is this the second time I have heard of this happening?

    What is it about these door mechanisms that they are not designed to eh... stay on??

    Not sure about the AW139 in particular, but on military helis they’re often designed to be removable for flying with a mounted gun sticking out of the doorway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    FluffPiece wrote: »
    Not the first time this has happened either is it, I think about 10 years or so ago a similar incident with a minister on board if I recall correctly.

    Yep - that creep Martin Something or other (former FF Minister from Waterford) was on board, on a junket to or from Killarney IIRC.

    EDIT: Martin Cullen - former PD who, I think, switched to FF. A good pal of Monica Leech!


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0302/114650-cullenm/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Title says 'Aer Corps" but the door clearly shows "Air Corps"! I'm confused :confused:


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Rowan Victorious Peppermint


    Yep - that creep Martin Something or other (former FF Minister from Waterford) was on board, on a junket to or from Killarney IIRC.

    Aye, Martin Cullen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭mr.anonymous


    There was also this in 2007
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0411/101936-salthill/

    Salthill airshow helicopter door fell off injuring people on the beach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Years ago when we still had an airshow in Salthill, a helicopter lost its door while taking off from Salthill Park. Fell on the beach, fortunately there were only minor injuries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Mr Anonymous beat me to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    There was also this in 2007
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0411/101936-salthill/

    Salthill airshow helicopter door fell off injuring people on the beach.

    Turned out no one was injured chancers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    I presume this is part of their open door policy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    This could’ve been a very serious incident so they were steeped with luck this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    Didn’t something similar happen to the Gardai surveillance plane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭mr.anonymous


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Turned out no one was injured chancers

    "A woman attending the airshow told inspectors that the door hit her in the chin before she fell to the ground."

    Thought as much. Surely the only result of a helicopter door falling 40m in the downwash would be decapitation :P


    Very fortunate no one was hurt in the incident today though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    "A woman attending the airshow told inspectors that the door hit her in the chin before she fell to the ground."

    Thought as much. Surely the only result of a helicopter door falling 40m in the downwash would be decapitation :P


    Very fortunate no one was hurt in the incident today though.

    Or unfortunate depending on how you view our state compensation culture...
    ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Very embarrassing for the Air Corps. Are they using sellotape to hold our helicopters together or what? Just as well we aren't relying on these amateurs to defend the country from a military attack. Oh wait..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    coinop wrote: »
    Very embarrassing for the Air Corps. Are they using sellotape to hold our helicopters together or what? Just as well we aren't relying on these amateurs to defend the country from a military attack. Oh wait..

    IIRC it's a civilian spec helicopter so not much use to defend us if we were attacked, I doubt that a single military spec helicopter would be able to do much to defend us anyway.

    We don't spend enough to defend ourselves so it's not the militaries fault if we are attacked and we have no defences.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Del2005 wrote: »
    IIRC it's a civilian spec helicopter so not much use to defend us if we were attacked, I doubt that a single military spec helicopter would be able to do much to defend us anyway.

    We don't spend enough to defend ourselves so it's not the militaries fault if we are attacked and we have no defences.


    The way I see it the army etc are only here to provide (useful) manpower to the state and to go die first if we’re ever attacked.

    Getting back on topic, I would love to hear how this incident was impossible to prevent after the last few times. Surely at this stage someone needs to sit in court and have their arse handed to them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Tenger/Irish Steve/L1011, when will all these strange usernames go away? I don't want those weird AH'ers coming in here to see our nerdiness! :p:D;)

    Next thing you know there will be talk of AL(EI) and RA(FR) and telling the time using the 12 hour clock!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,549 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    coinop wrote: »
    Very embarrassing for the Air Corps. Are they using sellotape to hold our helicopters together or what?

    Same thing happened to the RAF at an air show in Salthill about ten years ago, that one caused injury.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Same thing happened to the RAF at an air show in Salthill about ten years ago, that one caused injury.

    I posted already that there were no injuries they were chancers trying it on. it was 13 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Boxcar_Willie


    Door latch seems to be in the open position.

    The door would have descended to the ground gently like a butterfly , light aluminium and concave-shaped . Would still do damage though !!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This. I agree entirely.
    Oink wrote: »
    I would love to hear how this incident was impossible to prevent after the last few times. Surely at this stage someone needs to sit in court and have their arse handed to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,549 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    I posted already that there were no injuries they were chancers trying it on. it was 13 years ago.

    How do you know they were chancers?

    Air Corps spokesman says because it's wide and light it spirals down more or less horizontally like a sycamore seed, so it's quite possible to get hit in the chin.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 kevin711


    brettmirl wrote: »
    BREAKING: Investigation underway after the door of an Army helicopter fell off mid flight while travelling over Dublin this evening. Door landed in the Clondalkin area, Gardai currently at the scene. No injuries have been reported

    https://twitter.com/11schillrob/status/1263529952416235520?s=21

    Video of it on the ground here: https://twitter.com/stebreen/status/1263529898666311680?s=21

    It's AIR Corps.
    Not 'Aer' Corps.
    AIR CORPS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    How do you know they were chancers?

    Air Corps spokesman says because it's wide and light it spirals down more or less horizontally like a sycamore seed, so it's quite possible to get hit in the chin.


    It's relatively light compared to its size and surface area (hence the slow descent rate), not light in absolute terms. It's still several kilos of aluminium falling and spinning.There isn't a hope you could be hit on the chin and suffer anything less than getting your jaw impaled, if not getting decapitated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,549 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So the AAIU report is wrong then. You'd better write to them...

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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