Snowbirds ( Canadian Air Force display team ) lose an aircraft and crew member

Davidth88

Rather sad news coming out of Canada

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52701421

See they are still flying the CT114 which I was a bit surprised by.

Topgear on Dave

Very clear footage of it online. It's shocking how fast things can go wrong.

Inquitus

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Very clear footage of it online. It's shocking how fast things can go wrong.

Aye all happened very very fast less than a minute from takeoff to crash. RIP.

Tenger

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Very clear footage of it online. It's shocking how fast things can go wrong.

Indeed.
Im absolutely no expert but seems quite odd that there wasnt an obvious malfunction. Looks almost like a lost of control causing the climb and roll to the left, which the led to the crew ejection.
Am I wrong in thinking that there were 2 crew? Looked like 2 ejections to my amateur eye.

Negative_G

Tenger wrote: »

Indeed.
Im absolutely no expert but seems quite odd that there wasnt an obvious malfunction. Looks almost like a lost of control causing the climb and roll to the left, which the led to the crew ejection.
Am I wrong in thinking that there were 2 crew? Looked like 2 ejections to my amateur eye.

There was two crew. The public affairs officer was killed and the other pilot is in hospital.

Any engine failure or indication of impending failure will result in the first action of trading altitude for speed which is what may have happened here. Turning back towards the airfield is generally advisable even if the aircraft can't be recovered for several reasons.

Tenger

Thanks for the clarification. Certainly the climb seemed quite steep, in an (logical to me) effort to get away from the ground in order to attempt to asses and/or troubleshoot the situation.

Very tragic accident. An operation to pay tribute to healthworkers resulting in this.

Gone Drinking

Negative_G wrote: »

Turning back towards the airfield is generally advisable even if the aircraft can't be recovered for several reasons.

I thought that turning back during an issue in takeoff is generally advised against as without power you can stall easily during the turn?

Heart goes out to all involved.

Negative_G

Gone Drinking wrote: »

I thought that turning back during an issue in takeoff is generally advised against as without power you can stall easily during the turn?

Heart goes out to all involved.

It depends. You are correct, there is a heightened risk of a stall as the aircraft rapidly loses energy.

The idea of doing a zoom climb and getting that altitude is to buy time to assess options.

Every aircraft will be different of course. May well have been an attempt to merely point back towards the airfield to avoid aircraft damaging people and property adjacent to the airfield.

If there was nowhere immediately in front to point the aircraft prior to ejection they may have elected to turn back.

Certainly the initial turn at the top of the climb would suggest some form of deviation other than continuing straight ahead.