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Japanese Holly/ ilex crenata going yellow??

  • 16-05-2020 12:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭


    Hi all
    I planted this hedge in last June. It seemed to thrive and grew a fair bit. I cant help but wonder about its health though. Is it meant to take on this yellow appearance? It is the Dark green variety that I supposedly purchased. The plants when planted had only dark leaves. Now some dark leaves are there but most are golden yellow. They look healthy otherwise. Drainage doesnt seem to be an issue. What do ye think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Is it just the new leaves that are yellow?
    The new leaves will be brighter then darken as they age.
    Google a few images and see if they match yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    Pic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    Sorry here is the picture. It seems to be older leaves aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    Close up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Ok, is there any drainage in that bed at all or is concreted at the bottom? The soil looks very damp considering we've had very little rain recently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    I had just watered it last night as it was bone dry and soil cracking . There are big stones at the bottom for drainage and holes out of the wall to at the bottom to take any water... does that sound ok. The soil does go very very dry if no rain so I'm presuming drainage isnt an issue??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    That sounds fine.
    My next suggestion is that the soil itself is very heavy clay, which would tally with it cracking now, whilst it would be extremely moisture holding in the winter.
    In essence they look malnourished and struggling with water-logging, so give a granular feed and don't water for the next few weeks and see how they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    Ok thanks for your advise. I will post back here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    Sorry just a thought. Would there be any point in me trying to pry one out and see what's going on down below??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭GinSoaked


    You sure you didn't plant the dwarf golden form Ilex crenata Golden Gem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    That's a concern I have. Was I given the right plants. I ordered and purchased the dark green variety. I have the order forms/receipt etc. They were dark green when I got them. Would the golden gem be dark green as small plants?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭GinSoaked


    It all looks too even to be a growing problem. The golden form has green leaves behind the yellow ones where they are shaded. Were yours clipped before you got them.

    btw they look good to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    I dont know to be honest. This was them when they were just planted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Sorry just a thought. Would there be any point in me trying to pry one out and see what's going on down below??

    I'd expect you would find a weak root system, and i wouldn't advise disturbing them more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭GinSoaked


    tbh, I don't think there is anything there to worry about. Plants all look healthy (without that blotchiness you get on some of the lower leaves on the golden form) and ilex crenata new growth can be a bit yellow, if yours is growing really well then it may be growing faster than it can create chlorophyll and will eventually go green.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    GinSoaked wrote: »
    You sure you didn't plant the dwarf golden form Ilex crenata Golden Gem?

    That thought did occur to me too, but not when i saw them.
    Uniform water-logging would lead to uniform yellowing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    GinSoaked wrote: »
    tbh, I don't think there is anything there to worry about. Plants all look healthy (without that blotchiness you get on some of the lower leaves on the golden form) and ilex crenata new growth can be a bit yellow, if yours is growing really well then it may be growing faster than it can create chlorophyll and will eventually go green.

    Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree on this one!
    If you zoom in on the first pic again you will see that the plant nearest the camera has one stem paler than the rest which looks to be dying off and also one or two leaves starting to do the same.
    Following my advice is not going to do any harm anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    So of course I couldnt resist having a peep further as I have spares. The plant came away with out much prying at it. The soil seems very dry. (I actually didnt get to these ones last night when watering). Pics show soil quality. Does it seem waterlogged?? Also the pot I had planted some spares shows the same yellowing....
    Thanks so much for all the advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    I dont know was I just sold the wrong plants.... the more i look at it..... how can i identify for sure if this is the problem.... where do I stand with the nursery that sold me the plants. I purchased nearly €300 worth of them and then the work that went in to planting etc...

    Hopefully I'm wrong......��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    So of course I couldnt resist having a peep further as I have spares. The plant came away with out much prying at it. The soil seems very dry. (I actually didnt get to these ones last night when watering). Pics show soil quality. Does it seem waterlogged?? Also the pot I had planted some spares shows the same yellowing....
    Thanks so much for all the advice.

    Pictures tell a thousand words!
    The soil doesn't look dry to me at all, does it form a ball easily?
    The rootball is indeed showing the effects of water-logging, lots of dead root and only a small bit of healthy white root, which is only regrowing now as the soil dries out. The reason the plants are starting to yellow is because there's not enough root to supply adequate nutrient.
    Feeding will help what roots there are, and not watering will help more to grow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I dont know was I just sold the wrong plants.... the more i look at it..... how can i identify for sure if this is the problem.... where do I stand with the nursery that sold me the plants. I purchased nearly €300 worth of them and then the work that went in to planting etc...

    Hopefully I'm wrong......��

    You're worrying too much. Replant that one and just let nature take its course.
    I'd imagine they'll recover in another couple of months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    It doesnt form a ball if I squeeze some together in my hand . Even went way further down below roots and and that soils is loose and dry aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭springer111


    I know... it's just bugging me. What am I like... hopefully it will recover.

    I appreciate the help. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,188 ✭✭✭standardg60


    It doesnt form a ball if I squeeze some together in my hand . Even went way further down below roots and and that soils is loose and dry aswell.

    Must be just the way it's looking in the pics.
    Anyway give them a feed and see how they go.


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