Roundup question

fastrac94

Is there anything that will burn off a piece of ground quicker than roundup???

Bass Reeves

fastrac94 wrote: »

Is there anything that will burn off a piece of ground quicker than roundup???

No and the idea should not be to burn it off fast. A few years back the theory was to use extra roundup to kill off growth fast. Talking to a lads that deals in grass seed, roundup up should be cut back to 1.5l/acre or even less. Using higher rates only burns off the top growth and the roots shut down . This leads to regrowth of grass and weeds in the sward

Gawddawggonnit

fastrac94 wrote: »

Is there anything that will burn off a piece of ground quicker than roundup???

Yes.
Reglone and Gramoxone.
Both are desiccants that’ll burn off any vegetation but will not harm the roots of the plants.

Say my name

Wood vinegar if applied straight acts as a herbicide.
If applied at 1:200 acts as a foliar fertilizer.
If applied at 1:30 as a soil drench, increases microbial activity (carbon sequestration).

Can be used in organic farming. Produced by the poorest of farmers. And can't be patented.

Let us know if you've access to it though. :pac:

K.G.

If you want roundup to work put out a bag of nitrogen a week before

carrollsno1

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yes.
Reglone and Gramoxone.
Both are desiccants that’ll burn off any vegetation but will not harm the roots of the plants.

Is Gramoxone not illegal around here or is that Trephalyn (sic) im thinking of?

Were using roundup flex one field this week, supposed to give a better result and has over 100g more glyphosate per litre i think.

Gawddawggonnit

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Is Gramoxone not illegal around here or is that Trephalyn (sic) im thinking of?

Were using roundup flex one field this week, supposed to give a better result and has over 100g more glyphosate per litre i think.

I’ve honestly no idea what’s banned or not. Glyphosate usually comes in 360/450/480g/L. The concentration of the product won’t make any difference to the speed of kill because you’ll probably use the same g/ha.

Tallow Amine was the product that used to make glyphosate work a bit quicker but it’s gone off market now.

Gawddawggonnit

K.G. wrote: »

If you want roundup to work put out a bag of nitrogen a week before

Jesus wept.

endainoz

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Jesus wept.

Monsanto would be proud of that!

Lime Tree Farm

K.G. wrote: »

If you want roundup to work put out a bag of nitrogen a week before

As the OP was seeking a quick response to herbicide application, KG suggested Nitrogen for a spurt of foliar growth, for fast take up of the herbicide by actively growing foliage , thereby speeding up translocation of herbicide down to the root system.

Well that was my reading of what KG was saying.

fastrac94

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

As the OP was seeking a quick response to herbicide application, KG suggested Nitrogen for a spurt of foliar growth, for fast take up of the herbicide by actively growing foliage , thereby speeding up translocation of herbicide down to the root system.

Well that was my reading of what KG was saying.

Thanks everyone,didnt burn it off,mate ploughed what he could and I turned the rest with the digger...it all got grass seed this evening just as it was starting to rain do jobs done..ðŸ‘

Waffletraktor

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Jesus wept.

K.G. wrote: »

If you want roundup to work put out a bag of nitrogen a week before

Split the difference and spray liquid n on, on a hot sunny day with a really fine mist.

Water John

fastrac94 wrote: »

Thanks everyone,didnt burn it off,mate ploughed what he could and I turned the rest with the digger...it all got grass seed this evening just as it was starting to rain do jobs done..ðŸ‘

Well that's a good lesson, that a herbicide is not always the only answer. It's what will prevail in the future.

Sprayed off ragwort in a field 4/5 years ago, great result. But they're back with a vengance this year.

endainoz

Water John wrote: »

Well that's a good lesson, that a herbicide is not always the only answer. It's what will prevail in the future.

Sprayed off ragwort in a field 4/5 years ago, great result. But they're back with a vengance this year.

I had heard the seeds come back every two years or so. You might have killed one years worth but sounds like the dormant ones decided to wake up.

That lovely pink ragwort weeder recommended here arrived in my post during the week, will be interesting to see how it goes.

Bass Reeves

Water John wrote: »

Well that's a good lesson, that a herbicide is not always the only answer. It's what will prevail in the future.

Sprayed off ragwort in a field 4/5 years ago, great result. But they're back with a vengance this year.

Do not let them go to seed, if you can keep them topped, if not keep them pulled. They are a terrible weed when they get hold in a farm. Are they comining in from a neighbour farm.

Water John

No, I know they're a biennial, a rosette the first year and that then shoots up to flower the second year.
They're right through the field, hope it's just the rosette stage this year as it's a Glas meadow.

Bass Reeves

Water John wrote: »

No, I know they're a biennial, a rosette the first year and that then shoots up to flower the second year.
They're right through the field, hope it's just the rosette stage this year as it's a Glas meadow.

Rosette stage come later in the year normally. If you are seeing strong rosettes at this stage of the year I suspect you have plants that will flower or some will anyway

Gawddawggonnit

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Split the difference and spray liquid n on, on a hot sunny day with a really fine mist.

Lol!..
...and get a good dairy man to spray it at a proper 5-10 Bar, and the jobs a good ‘un!
Jesus, I’ve seen dairy lads posting their spraying efforts on Twitter...the sooner that they’re barred from owning/operating a sprayer, the better for everyone!

Gawddawggonnit

endainoz wrote: »

Monsanto would be proud of that!

Bayer.

AckwelFoley

Water John wrote: »

Well that's a good lesson, that a herbicide is not always the only answer. It's what will prevail in the future.

Sprayed off ragwort in a field 4/5 years ago, great result. But they're back with a vengance this year.

Buy a few sheep. We keep a dozen of the poxy little ba*stards on 40 acres of grazing pasture. We don't have much problem with it now.

endainoz

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Bayer.

All the one crowd

charlie14

AckwelFoley wrote: »

Buy a few sheep. We keep a dozen of the poxy little ba*stards on 40 acres of grazing pasture. We don't have much problem with it now.

Sheep controlling ragwort definitely works, but there are days it is a toss up as to which of the two should be killed off.

AckwelFoley

charlie14 wrote: »

Sheep controlling ragwort definitely works, but there are days it is a toss up as to which of the two should be killed off.

Oh yes. Certainly a question of which is the lesser of 2 evils.