Ryanair resuming majority of flights by July

dartboardio

Does this mean we may be able to travel in July? Or is this only ryanair from other destinations that are allowed?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dartboardio wrote: »

Does this mean we may be able to travel in July? Or is this only ryanair from other destinations that are allowed?

Depends on where you want to go. Most countries will probably have open borders by then, but a few may well still be closed to foreigners and non-residents; so although Ryanair may well sell you a ticket to go there, the authorites might not let you in (or insist on quarantine)

Atlantic Dawn

As it currently stands as an Irish resident you can't travel more than 20km from home until 20th July.

shadowmouse

"Ryanair on Tuesday confirmed it will return to 40% of its planned flight schedule from July 1 and will require passengers to wear face coverings and to ask crew permission to use the toilet.

The Irish airline, Europe’s largest low-cost carrier, is to begin to fly 1,000 flights per day on July 1, up from a skeleton service of 30 flights per day it is currently operating, it said in a statement.

That will allow it to cover 90% of its pre-crisis network but fewer frequencies, it said.

This month CEO Michael O’Leary said Ryanair was likely to go from 40% of normal flights in July to 50% in August, but with at least half of the seats likely to be empty due to “anaemic demand”.

As part of its Covid-19 response, Ryanair will require all passengers to fill out a form detailing the length of their planned visit and where they will stay, information that will be provided to EU governments to monitor quarantine measures.

Britain, one of Ryanair’s three largest markets, plans to quarantine for 14 days after arriving in the country, a move that industry leaders on Monday said would worsen an already grave situation for the aviation sector.

Ryanair said it will disinfect all aircraft interiors every night and ban cash sales on board and encourage customers to check their temperature before traveling."

Starlord_01

Jose Luis Abalos explained that the two-week quarantine was intended to be temporary. It is set to be phased out in parallel with travel being allowed within Spain.

Hopefully the same is implemented here!

bigar

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

As it currently stands as an Irish resident you can't travel more than 20km from home until 20th July.

Incorrect, Irish Residents who are of a foreign nationality can travel to their country and back.

maestroamado

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

As it currently stands as an Irish resident you can't travel more than 20km from home until 20th July.

Someone needs to clarify this.
In July a flight from one of Ryanair hubs arrives Dublin with passengers.
According to above this flight return empty.
We need EU clarity here...

GocRh

bigar wrote: »

Incorrect, Irish Residents who are of a foreign nationality can travel to the their country and back.

This seems strange, there's no way Irish citizens would be discriminated in our own country!
As far as I know, guideline is that non-essential travel should be avoided by anyone who's resident in Ireland, irrespective of citizenship.
That being said, I highly doubt anyone would be denied boarding if they are admissible to their country of destination.

ted1

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

As it currently stands as an Irish resident you can't travel more than 20km from home until 20th July.

Only a small % of their flights either land or depart from Ireland

GocRh

maestroamado wrote: »

Someone needs to clarify this.
In July a flight from one of Ryanair hubs arrives Dublin with passengers.
According to above this flight return empty.
We need EU clarity here...

I believe the government 'strategy' is to keep hotels, pubs and restaurants closed as a deterrent. Tourists won't come to Ireland if there's nothing to do and nowhere to stay, so no incentive to visit Ireland until August at the earliest.

bigar

GocRh wrote: »

This seems strange, there's no way Irish citizens would be discriminated in our own country!
As far as I know, guideline is that non-essential travel should be avoided by anyone who's resident in Ireland, irrespective of citizenship.
That being said, I highly doubt anyone would be denied boarding if they are admissible to their country of destination.

Irish Citizens are not discriminated against. If they live in another country they will be allowed entry into Ireland and return as they are resident in the other country.
All travelers will have to abide by local rules though like only essential travel and self isolation.

GocRh

bigar wrote: »

Irish Citizens are not discriminated against. If they live in another country they will be allowed entry into Ireland and return as they are resident in the other country.
All travelers will have to abide by local rules though like only essential travel and self isolation.

My reply was in relation to your comment regarding foreign nationals residing in Ireland being able to travel unimpeded to and from their country of nationality: 'Incorrect, Irish Residents who are of a foreign nationality can travel to their country and back.'

Which is not entirely accurate as everyone in Ireland, irish or not, is being advised against non-essential trips.

Concerning your last comments that Irish citizens 'will be allowed entry into Ireland and return as they are resident in the other country' - Irish citizens are ALWAYS allowed entry into Ireland, at any time, for any reason, from anywhere in the world, irrespective of where they live. They are also not necessarily entitled to return to their country of residence - several countries completely closed their borders to non-nationals, being a resident does not automatically entitle anyone a right to return.

Pauliedragon

I couldn't see myself flying anytime this year even if it was free. Airports are a pain in the hole at the best of times imagine going through them in these times. Probably have to turn up about 8 hours before the flight just to get through the checks and good luck trying to get something to eat or a drink whilst waiting for the flight. No thanks.

ninebeanrows

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I couldn't see myself flying anytime this year even if it was free. Airports are a pain in the hole at the best of times imagine going through them in these times. Probably have to turn up about 8 hours before the flight just to get through the checks and good luck trying to get something to eat or a drink whilst waiting for the flight. No thanks.

Certainly be arranging a few xanax if there are no pints to be bought to ease the pre flight jitters

Clonmel1000

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I couldn't see myself flying anytime this year even if it was free. Airports are a pain in the hole at the best of times imagine going through them in these times. Probably have to turn up about 8 hours before the flight just to get through the checks and good luck trying to get something to eat or a drink whilst waiting for the flight. No thanks.

If you get an offer of free flights PM please I’ll gladly take them off your hands anytime this year.

reg114

The title of this thread is actually incorrect. Michael O Leary was on Sky news the other day and said flights will resume at 40% of their usual capacity come July. He also said they will not be keeping middle seats free to facilitate social distancing.
Essentially given how contagious this virus is, the likelihood of contracting it in a confined space like a plane would be quite high. The safest place to sit would be the very back row because there's nobody sitting behind you coughing on top of you. That still wouldn't guarantee you wouldn't get it, but it would reduce your risk slightly.
Ultimately people can take a whole host of measures to mitigate catching this disease but it really is a case of when you will catch it not if.

TopOfTheHill

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

As it currently stands as an Irish resident you can't travel more than 20km from home until 20th July.

Out of curiosity - Would this allow me to claim insurance ?

YesterdayRyanair cancelled our flights to Spain on 18th July, but hotel is still booked and looks like it will be operational.

Caranica

They've just tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1263814768705634304?s=20

ninebeanrows

Why cant one post in the will be fly again thread?

I notice Harris getting his way with 2 week quarantine legislation.

Talk about after timing.

Surely now is the time to plan for loosening not inflicting more damage on our economy.

I hope this measure is easily retractable

RickBlaine

According to RTE: "They will remain in effect until 18 June 2020, when they will be reviewed."

torrevieja

Going of the topic slightly if I'm correct u could purchase a 20kg luggage and 10kg cabin bag plus a small bag under Ur seat and reserved seating is this selection gone now as I can see there is no 10 kg on this plus option but now had a small bag 40cmx20cmx25 dimensions which want this a larger dimensions last year ?

maestroamado

torrevieja wrote: »

Going of the topic slightly if I'm correct u could purchase a 20kg luggage and 10kg cabin bag plus a small bag under Ur seat and reserved seating is this selection gone now as I can see there is no 10 kg on this plus option but now had a small bag 40cmx20cmx25 dimensions which want this a larger dimensions last year ?

I booked one return trip EasyJet since the lockdown.
There was no option for larger carry-0n bag but i the smaller one was still there, the larger bag has to go in hold at a cost of £1 per flight.
I am expecting all baggage be going in the hold when some kindof normal resumes, it makes sense.

Someone who flew recently likely give you more info.

Tippgirl74

TopOfTheHill wrote: »

Out of curiosity - Would this allow me to claim insurance ?

YesterdayRyanair cancelled our flights to Spain on 18th July, but hotel is still booked and looks like it will be operational.

Not with our insurance- insureandgo. Government directive was an exclusion!! We had annual multitrip with them for years!! Would have got nothing back on the 2 holidays we'd booked if were dependent on them!!! I know vhi travel insurance paid out for others.

torrevieja

maestroamado wrote: »

I booked one return trip EasyJet since the lockdown.
There was no option for larger carry-0n bag but i the smaller one was still there, the larger bag has to go in hold at a cost of £1 per flight.
I am expecting all baggage be going in the hold when some kindof normal resumes, it makes sense.

Thanks but I'm just wondering if Ryanair has changed this

atahuapla

One of their PR guys was on the evening show on RTE Radio 1 last night, it was a strange interview. Host asked him how many people will be allowed on their 737's from July. Guy replies flatly "Our 737s seat 189 people."
They are not implementing any social distancing measures whatsoever!

Getting on a full Ryanair flight is fairly claustrophobic in normal times, who in their right mind would book a Ryanair flight knowing this info?

maestroamado

atahuapla wrote: »

One of their PR guys was on the evening show on RTE Radio 1 last night, it was a strange interview. Host asked him how many people will be allowed on their 737's from July. Guy replies flatly "Our 737s seat 189 people."
They are not implementing any social distancing measures whatsoever!

Getting on a full Ryanair flight is fairly claustrophobic in normal times, who in their right mind would book a Ryanair flight knowing this info?

To be fair the EU guideline said middle seat need not be free.


There is Business+Politics+Economies.
If we do not fly they all fail...

ShineOn7

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Why cant one post in the will be fly again thread?

Locked with no reason given

ShineOn7

atahuapla wrote: »

One of their PR guys was on the evening show on RTE Radio 1 last night, it was a strange interview. Host asked him how many people will be allowed on their 737's from July. Guy replies flatly "Our 737s seat 189 people."
They are not implementing any social distancing measures whatsoever!

They're flying them full?

Fcuk that. I'll wait and see how this goes over the next 2 months before getting on a plane anywhere in the EU

O'Leary doesn't give a flying singular fúck about you or if you catch anything

maestroamado

ShineOn7 wrote: »

They're flying them full?

Fcuk that. I'll wait and see how this goes over the next 2 months before getting on a plane anywhere in the EU

O'Leary doesn't give a flying singular fúck about you or if you catch anything

That decision was made at EU level.


I agree i think they should have left middle seat free at least for a Month but it was not O'Leary's decision.

I know EasyJet said in the past they were going to leave middle seat free so we will see if this happens...

GocRh

maestroamado wrote: »

That decision was made at EU level.


I agree i think they should have left middle seat free at least for a Month but it was not O'Leary's decision.

I know EasyJet said in the past they were going to leave middle seat free so we will see if this happens...

No one is forced to fly, and if people are that concerned just book the seat next to you!

It would be nice however if Ryanair offered the option to block a seat at a reduced price though... they won't be filling planes anytime soon anyway so that might actually help convince some people to fly...

I'd be more 'concerned' with the policy that you have to call a flight attended if you want to go to the toilet, I just don't see how that's going to work.

CruelSummer

I really want to travel in late July, we had flights booked for June but are cancelled. Any ideas here as to if fights will go ahead in late July/August?

mailburner

Tippgirl74 wrote: »

Not with our insurance- insureandgo. Government directive was an exclusion!! We had annual multitrip with them for years!! Would have got nothing back on the 2 holidays we'd booked if were dependent on them!!! I know vhi travel insurance paid out for others.

That saves me having to ring them

Mid August so still hope (Gran Canaria)

Starlord_01

CruelSummer wrote: »

I really want to travel in late July, we had flights booked for June but are cancelled. Any ideas here as to if fights will go ahead in late July/August?

Full schedule from July 1st https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/plan-trip/explore/Lets-Fly?onsid=rycom_PT_ie_LetsFly_hero1_noseg_noab_nodev_nodl_nodlp.html

2 week quarantine on return though!

maestroamado

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Full schedule from July 1st https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/plan-trip/explore/Lets-Fly?onsid=rycom_PT_ie_LetsFly_hero1_noseg_noab_nodev_nodl_nodlp.html

2 week quarantine on return though!

So we be only Country in Europe that have quarantine, unlikely.
A couple of weeks ago they were telling us no flights this summer.
I think big review mid June, what happens between now and then will decide.

atahuapla

GocRh wrote: »

I'd be more 'concerned' with the policy that you have to call a flight attended if you want to go to the toilet, I just don't see how that's going to work.

For me, it's the chaos in the the airport terminal --- social distance queuing at check in, social distance queuing for security, trying to get a bite to eat at a restaurant, queuing for the gate and being forced into standing in a tight stairwell in T1 before you walk onto the tarmac.

No way in hell any of that works in an orderly fashion. Terminals are some of the most chaotic places in the world when it comes to invasion of personal space.

Starlord_01

maestroamado wrote: »

So we be only Country in Europe that have quarantine, unlikely.
A couple of weeks ago they were telling us no flights this summer.
I think big review mid June, what happens between now and then will decide.

More than likely will be lifted, but no point in booking flights until it is.

Comhrá

If wearing masks for the duration of the flight is mandatory, will inflight food and drinks be suspended?

Hard to imagine the scenario with passengers taking off masks and leaving them lying around while eating and drinking? Isn't onboard catering a major earner? Could result in higher fares to offset potential revenue losses. I'd love to see how this issue is addressed.

GocRh

Comhra wrote: »

If wearing masks for the duration of the flight is mandatory, will inflight food and drinks be suspended?

Hard to imagine the scenario with passengers taking off masks and leaving them lying around while eating and drinking? Isn't onboard catering a major earner? Could result in higher fares to offset potential revenue losses. I'd love to see how this issue is addressed.

Ryanair have suspended in-flight services for now, but nothing stopping you from bringing your own food on-board.

stargazer 68

GocRh wrote: »

Ryanair have suspended in-flight services for now, but nothing stopping you from bringing your own food on-board.

We always do that anyway. Open those hang sambos and half the flight turn to look at you enviously as they didn't do it and have to eat Ryanair rubbish

GocRh

Dovies wrote: »

We always do that anyway. Open those hang sambos and half the flight turn to look at you enviously as they didn't do it and have to eat Ryanair rubbish

Too bad you're not allowed to bring your own booze. But if you can hide it though

Albert12

Why cant one post in the will be fly again thread?

I notice Harris getting his way with 2 week quarantine legislation.

Talk about after timing.

Surely now is the time to plan for loosening not inflicting more damage on our economy.

I hope this measure is easily retractable

maestroamado

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maestroamado wrote: »

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therefore I am?

naughtysmurf

GocRh wrote: »

Too bad you're not allowed to bring your own booze. But if you can hide it though

I bring my own booze, miniature rums, no problems going through security just put them in the clear plastic bag, buy my mixer before boarding, sorted, you can bring your own travel cup too

maestroamado

naughtysmurf wrote: »

I bring my own booze, miniature rums, no problems going through security just put them in the clear plastic bag, buy my mixer before boarding, sorted, you can bring your own travel cup too

I never drink when flying as i always have to drive on arrival.
Are you serious about bringing the miniature bottles?
A couple years ago a couple of girls opened their bottle of wine and the plane had hardly left the ground, a big row fallowed with stewardess.
I was chatting stewardess after and she said the one they watch for is if someone asks for tin of coke and lots of ice...

naughtysmurf

maestroamado wrote: »

I never drink when flying as i always have to drive on arrival.
Are you serious about bringing the miniature bottles?
A couple years ago a couple of girls opened their bottle of wine and the plane had hardly left the ground, a big row fallowed with stewardess.
I was chatting stewardess after and she said the one they watch for is if someone asks for tin of coke and lots of ice...

Yep, just a couple of miniatures & just quietly selfserve, if you're sitting in the middle of the plane you'll be waiting a while for the trolley to arrive,

If a group decide to open a bottle of wine I could see issues with staff, think I read somewhere that it's legal to bring booze onboard but not to serve yourself, I just have a couple of quiet drinks & a snooze, I don't bother anybody

maestroamado

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Yep, just a couple of miniatures & just quietly selfserve, if you're sitting in the middle of the plane you'll be waiting a while for the trolley to arrive,

If a group decide to open a bottle of wine I could see issues with staff, think I read somewhere that it's legal to bring booze onboard but not to serve yourself, I just have a couple of quiet drinks & a snooze, I don't bother anybody

Sorry i was not suggesting you bother anyone.
I am not a rule-maker, i'm a rule breaker...

GocRh

'The two-week quarantine period for people arriving into the State from abroad will be lifted for those coming from countries where the coronavirus has been controlled, under plans being considered by the Government.'

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/quarantine-may-be-lifted-for-arrivals-into-ireland-from-countries-with-low-covid-19-cases-1.4265209?mode=amp

Finally some common sense!!!

naughtysmurf

maestroamado wrote: »

Sorry i was not suggesting you bother anyone.
I am not a rule-maker, i'm a rule breaker...

No worries, no offense taken at all

maestroamado

GocRh wrote: »

'The two-week quarantine period for people arriving into the State from abroad will be lifted for those coming from countries where the coronavirus has been controlled, under plans being considered by the Government.'

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/quarantine-may-be-lifted-for-arrivals-into-ireland-from-countries-with-low-covid-19-cases-1.4265209?mode=amp

Finally some common sense!!!

Who decides which countries have the virus under control?
If Italy or Spain decide they have virus under control and we decide they have not i assume no flights travel to these countries.
It's all a bit vague for my liking and i prefer Europe either open or closed.
I expect that there be an announcement after weekend as they surely want to keep a reign on for long weekend...