Golf R-Line TSI 1.0

CantGetNoSleep

I'm looking at a Golf RLine TSI - just wondering is that 1.0 at all manageable?

I'm upgrading from a Toyota GT86 for practicality and running cost reasons.

I do very little mileage (3000km a year or so). Main reason for upgrading at this time is planning some staycation type trips over the summer.

Golf is asking 16900 (2019 with 12000km). Need to figure out what net cost to me is. GT86 is end 2012 with about 155000km

colm_mcm

Golf 1.0 has the same torque as your GT86, obviously it’s got less horsepower, but it’s not as slow as you’d think.

I don’t think doing 3000km p/a and trading up for running costs is a valid reason.

I know you’re saying practicality too, but you’ll have a heavier depreciating 2019 car sitting there doing pretty much nothing.

CantGetNoSleep

colm_mcm wrote: »

Golf 1.0 has the same torque as your GT86, obviously it’s got less horsepower, but it’s not as slow as you’d think.

I don’t think doing 3000km p/a and trading up for running costs is a valid reason.

I know you’re saying practicality too, but you’ll have a heavier depreciating 2019 car sitting there doing pretty much nothing.

The practicality of it is also part of my thinking though.

I run my own company (not in Ireland) and I pay benefit in kind which is part calculated on engine size so I could save 150€ a month in that. Haven't looked at insurance yet

User1998

You’d be better off with an E Golf and pay no BIK at all

colm_mcm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

The practicality of it is also part of my thinking though.

I run my own company (not in Ireland) and I pay benefit in kind which is part calculated on engine size so I could save 150€ a month in that. Haven't looked at insurance yet

Insurance will certainly be cheaper on the Golf.

CantGetNoSleep

User1998 wrote: »

You’d be better off with an E Golf and pay no BIK at all

If I didn't live in an apartment with no garage I'd be driving an electric car long ago. Live in a city centre and use on street parking. One of the main criteria of my next move will be a garage or a driveway for that reason.

I'd often go a week without using the car, sometimes two so I'm worried about how practical an electric car would be if I can't charge it at home

colm_mcm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

If I didn't live in an apartment with no garage I'd be driving an electric car long ago. Live in a city centre and use on street parking. One of the main criteria of my next move will be a garage or a driveway for that reason.

I'd often go a week without using the car, sometimes two so I'm worried about how practical an electric car would be if I can't charge it at home

One charge a month, wouldn’t be too bad!

Main thing would be dodging BIK, if that’s even possible where you live.

Pacifico

Is the 16900 price including your trade in? What’s the cash price?

CantGetNoSleep

Pacifico wrote: »

Is the 16900 price including your trade in? What’s the cash price?

16900 is the cash price. He's coming back to me with a trade in value later. It's a small independent dealer type. Tbh it just caught my eye browsing stuff.

I'm reluctant to deal with the hassle of selling my car privately

Toyotafanboi

Do you mean 26900? €16900 is about €10k too cheap. I'd be worried if that's the case provided it's actually as R Line and not just a Trendline with replica alloys. The cheapest 2019 petrol R Line on donedeal at the minute is €23750.

The 1.0 is decent in them, drives well for what it is.

Something I always look at myself is how does a car so new end up outside the dealer network so quickly? Who traded in a basically new Golf at a small independent dealer off one of their used cars?

There'll be a reason it's not in a main dealer generally speaking whether its had a tasty bit of damage repaired and they dont want to retail it or it's ex hire drive and a bit too hockeyed or something.

colm_mcm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Do you mean 26900? €16900 is about €10k too cheap. I'd be worried if that's the case provided it's actually as R Line and not just a Trendline with replica alloys. The cheapest 2019 petrol R Line on donedeal at the minute is €23750.

The 1.0 is decent in them, drives well for what it is.

Something I always look at myself is how does a car so new end up outside the dealer network so quickly? Who traded in a basically new Golf at a small independent dealer off one of their used cars?

There'll be a reason it's not in a main dealer generally speaking whether its had a tasty bit of damage repaired and they dont want to retail it or it's ex hire drive and a bit too hockeyed or something.

Possibly a different European country

CantGetNoSleep

Here you go -https://www.autoscout24.be/fr/offres/volkswagen-golf-r-line-essence-bleu-7a8d46a5-fc18-b607-e053-0100007fd27a?cldtidx=2&cldtsrc=listPage

There seem to be a few on sale under 20k even new. Not sure if spec is different to the Irish ones

Fair point on the fact that such a new car is on sale outside a main dealer though. I might look around given that I'm evidently not a car person.

DaveyDave

The 1.0 is a good engine for a daily driver. Power delivery is good, you don't have to work for the power or get it above certain revs to get anywhere. The engine is quiet, it sounds nice when you can hear it but can be a bit whiney above 5,000rpm. It will get up to motorway speeds no bother. I drove across the country with a car full of people and heavy luggage and managed to overtake at 120kph but it does run out of steam at those speeds. The 130/150hp 1.5 would be better at motorway overtaking but the 1.0 is still very capable.

Fuel consumption is only ok. I've averaged 6.7L over 35,000km of backroads, dual carriageway and occasionally city driving but your mileage is low so it shouldn't be an issue. I've seen 4.7-5.5L on motorways, mostly 5.2L.

I highly recommend the DSG auto, it's a super smooth gearbox.

Rusky rusky

DaveyDave wrote: »

The 1.0 is a good engine for a daily driver. Power delivery is good, you don't have to work for the power or get it above certain revs to get anywhere. The engine is quiet, it sounds nice when you can hear it but can be a bit whiney above 5,000rpm. It will get up to motorway speeds no bother. I drove across the country with a car full of people and heavy luggage and managed to overtake at 120kph but it does run out of steam at those speeds. The 130/150hp 1.5 would be better at motorway overtaking but the 1.0 is still very capable.

Fuel consumption is only ok. I've averaged 6.7L over 35,000km of backroads, dual carriageway and occasionally city driving but your mileage is low so it shouldn't be an issue. I've seen 4.7-5.5L on motorways, mostly 5.2L.

I highly recommend the DSG auto, it's a super smooth gearbox.

I have a 1.0 tsi estate with dsg and over the last 28 months I’m averaging 5.86 l/100km on spritmonitor (brim to brim). Though over last 1.5 years I have a sleepy 50km return commute on 80km roads so the consumption is low. In summer I averaged ab 5.5l/100km which includes driving around the town on the w/d. Slow town driving will bring up the consumption to above 8l. 3 cylinder idles at 900rpm and drinks fuel so the SS is essential. Hatchback + manual combination will have a lower consumption as the estate is heavier and dsg adds extra 0.5l to consumption if to believe WLTP. Overall the drive is very smooth, you won’t hear the engine or feel any vibrations from the engine unlike in diesels. Plenty of power even on motorways, never had problems overtaking. DSG def helps, I wouldn’t buy it in manual as you’ll be constantly changing the gears like in diesels - the power band is narrower than on the old 1.2l which I had in manual (2000-3500rpm vs 1400-4000 rpm) but a bit more torque at 2000 rpm. I think narrower power band also contributes towards the highish petrol consumption in slow traffic.

colm_mcm

Those are very impressive figures for a petrol.

Stallingrad

colm_mcm wrote: »

Those are very impressive figures for a petrol.

VAG make some crackingly frugal petrol engines. My wife's 1.4tsi DSG 150bhp Superb is not far away from that 1.0 polo at 6.7l per 100km.

hooch-85

My wife has a 2019 Ibiza FR 1.0 TSi since new, it's averaged nigh on 50mpg over 60kms, it's brilliant.

Hell even the performance engines are pretty good. I've averaged 31 mpg over 5 months in my R. On a steady 200km motorway and N road run yesterday it averaged just over 40. Not bad for 300 ponies.

CantGetNoSleep

Thanks all for the replies. Going to see a few R-Line 1.0s on Saturday. There are a few here under 20k new

CantGetNoSleep

Just a quick update on this - these cars are R-Line exterior which is an add-on, and rest of the spec is similar to the comfortline model.

There seems to be an excess of stock and they are being sold off new unregistered both from main dealers and smaller non-VW dealers at between 19 & 21000 new. One of the sellers told me they come from Northern Europe, he had 5 of them.

Will think about it over the weekend but will probably go for one of them.