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Hard water vs softened.

  • 09-05-2020 2:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    I live in a limestone area and we have a drilled well. The water is incredibly hard. A new kettle is covered in lime after a few days.
    I had an old AEG espresso machine which I put in the attic when I was drinking french press coffee. Then I changed to a moka pot for a few years.
    I recently cleaned up the old machine and it died before I got it set up. So I’m considering a new machine (probably something like a Dedica or something. Nothing too expensive in case it falls out of favour for the moka again).
    Anyway, we have a salt based softener supplying the whole house except for a tap in the kitchen which is unsoftened. Which should I use? I realise the hard water may taste better but I don’t don’t want to kill the machine in a few months or have to descale it every week.
    I’ve read that it can increase your sodium intake but also that it is minimal. I have high bp so that wouldn’t be good but then I have other ways of cutting some sodium. And I’m talking one or two espressos a day, max.
    I’ve seen pre-boiling suggested, buying distilled water (not happening), bottled water (but that’s often quite hard as well) and installing resin filtration (also not happening).
    So, thoughts (apart from I need resin filtration, a Baratza Encore and a Rocket Dual Boiler at a minimum 😄)?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭Akula


    il gatto wrote: »
    Hi,
    I live in a limestone area and we have a drilled well. The water is incredibly hard. A new kettle is covered in lime after a few days.
    I had an old AEG espresso machine which I put in the attic when I was drinking french press coffee. Then I changed to a moka pot for a few years.
    I recently cleaned up the old machine and it died before I got it set up. So I’m considering a new machine (probably something like a Dedica or something. Nothing too expensive in case it falls out of favour for the moka again).
    Anyway, we have a salt based softener supplying the whole house except for a tap in the kitchen which is unsoftened. Which should I use? I realise the hard water may taste better but I don’t don’t want to kill the machine in a few months or have to descale it every week.
    I’ve read that it can increase your sodium intake but also that it is minimal. I have high bp so that wouldn’t be good but then I have other ways of cutting some sodium. And I’m talking one or two espressos a day, max.
    I’ve seen pre-boiling suggested, buying distilled water (not happening), bottled water (but that’s often quite hard as well) and installing resin filtration (also not happening).
    So, thoughts (apart from I need resin filtration, a Baratza Encore and a Rocket Dual Boiler at a minimum 😄)?

    I’d use your salt softened water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    Akula wrote: »
    I’d use your salt softened water.

    Thanks. I was edging towards this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Stepping Stone


    il gatto wrote: »
    Hi,
    I live in a limestone area and we have a drilled well. The water is incredibly hard. A new kettle is covered in lime after a few days.
    I had an old AEG espresso machine which I put in the attic when I was drinking french press coffee. Then I changed to a moka pot for a few years.
    I recently cleaned up the old machine and it died before I got it set up. So I’m considering a new machine (probably something like a Dedica or something. Nothing too expensive in case it falls out of favour for the moka again).
    Anyway, we have a salt based softener supplying the whole house except for a tap in the kitchen which is unsoftened. Which should I use? I realise the hard water may taste better but I don’t don’t want to kill the machine in a few months or have to descale it every week.
    I’ve read that it can increase your sodium intake but also that it is minimal. I have high bp so that wouldn’t be good but then I have other ways of cutting some sodium. And I’m talking one or two espressos a day, max.
    I’ve seen pre-boiling suggested, buying distilled water (not happening), bottled water (but that’s often quite hard as well) and installing resin filtration (also not happening).
    So, thoughts (apart from I need resin filtration, a Baratza Encore and a Rocket Dual Boiler at a minimum 😄)?

    Neither option. I have the same situation but there isn’t a hope in hell that I would use the water from the softener. They’re filthy. Always full of bacteria. We filter all of our kettle and coffee machine water through a Brita filter jug. It saves the machines and means that we’re not drinking bacteria riddled water.

    The difference with me is that we’re on a public supply and the council won’t touch a tap with a filter to take samples for quality testing because they’re always going to high risk for bacterial contamination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭Akula


    If you follow the guidelines on maintenance and cleaning this shouldn't be a big issue though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    This a funny one. Guess similar scenario - have installed the descaling system in the house and an additional water filtering system in the kitchen.
    - in past, hard water already broke beyond repair a Gaggia Classic for us.

    Now my SO and I have different approach - I'd still use bottled water, he's getting the filtered water from the small tap through Britta filter.
    And then our espresso machine has its own additional water filter (- e.g, sage barrista, filter needs replacing every couple of months). While I didn't like the idea of additional cost with these - guess it improves the durability of the machine ...


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