bale wrap 2020

leoch

well lads its that time of year again to buy silage bale wrap alot of u go to the north to buy urs ,will it be any cheaper up there this year where do u go and wats the different prices of the different makes of wrap ???

atlantic mist

75 a roll

davidk1394

75 a roll for silawrap

thetiredfarmer

I just checked dandys in armagh they are advertising low prices (in the €60's) for various makes of wrap. I haven't heard of some of the brands before, I think you would be very brave to wrap everything with an unknown product.
Or maybe I'm just too cautious:D

degetme

How many bales on a roll? 30?

thetiredfarmer

degetme wrote: »

How many bales on a roll? 30?

Normally 30. Any less and it's a scam!:p

oxjkqg

30 bales in 1 roll at 4 layers
24 bales at 6 layers

tanko

Is it not 20 bales if you put on 6 layers?

Gillespy

thetiredfarmer wrote: »

Normally 30. Any less and it's a scam!:p

6 layers is to hide mistakes along the way. Mostly by the person handling the wrapped bales but also a poorly setup wrapper. You're sitting there like a fool for eight extra rotations and wasting rolls of plastic otherwise.

hopeso

tanko wrote: »

Is it not 20 bales if you put on 6 layers?

Yes....

hopeso

Gillespy wrote: »

6 layers is to hide mistakes along the way. Mostly by the person handling the wrapped bales but also a poorly setup wrapper. You're sitting there like a fool for eight extra rotations and wasting rolls of plastic otherwise.

I wouldn't agree with that. A lot of people putting on 6 layers around here, and seeing the benefit. If the person handling the wrapped bales is rough, 2 extra layers of wrap isn't going to make a difference..

leoch

6 layers a good job if u plan on keeping it over a second year or u have alot of cat or birds up on it like i have wats the prices like in the north for wrap ???

cute geoge

Here are some prices in N.I.
https://www.thedandys.ie/category/wrap/1

oxjkqg

6 layers is 24 bales per wrap.
It doesn't hide mistakes or bird damage.
If the bales are kept over for longer than 2 years (which happens here sometimes), or kept over for a year a lot of the time, then the bales hold a lot better. We are very open and get a lot of storms and the plastic is under pressure and starts to deteriorate.

Gillespy

It does hide mistakes and bad operators. A 6 layer bale can put up with a lot of rough handling. We had a wrapper once that needed 6 layers of plastic. Bales would burst open on 4, even letting two off the wrapper roll into each other would tear them. Split open. Changed that wrapper and haven't had an issue since. Correct tension and overlap is vital.

Carrying over bales is an overblown issue I believe. Wrapped right day one and then protect the stack with nets and poison is more important. I don't know about storms, I'm in south Kerry but not exposed. I can see it being a problem if stored for a while.

tanko

What type of nets do you use?
The cats here are damaging the bales. What's the best way to stop them?

Donald Trump

6 layers makes a big difference in quality to any decently high DM stuff you might try to make.

oxjkqg

Gillespy wrote: »

It does hide mistakes and bad operators. A 6 layer bale can put up with a lot of rough handling. We had a wrapper once that needed 6 layers of plastic. Bales would burst open on 4, even letting two off the wrapper roll into each other would tear them. Split open. Changed that wrapper and haven't had an issue since. Correct tension and overlap is vital.

Carrying over bales is an overblown issue I believe. Wrapped right day one and then protect the stack with nets and poison is more important. I don't know about storms, I'm in south Kerry but not exposed. I can see it being a problem if stored for a while.

Why didnt you adjust the tension of the wrapper pre stretch instead of changing the whole wrapper?


correct a 6 wrap bale puts up with more rough handling but you still see the cuts, tears and rips.


I make a lot of green lush bales, do a lot of tedding, getting the silage right. these bales are harder to carry over. the 6 layers is a must with these. If making pure overgrown dung haylage there is no issue with carrying over. Getting the stack right and having enough plastic on and no damage is the secret from my experience.



Use Tama and Volac net here, Tama goes out over the edges nicer but the Volac is good stuff too.

jfh

Anyone use zeus epicrop wrap, few euros cheaper than silo wrap

leoch

Is that the stuff that on sale on donedeal with that dandys crowd also rhino and silagrass anyone ever use them also its a good price if u have a vat no

davidk1394

leoch wrote: »

Is that the stuff that on sale on donedeal with that dandys crowd also rhino and silagrass anyone ever use them also its a good price if u have a vat no

Rhino is fine once you apply 6 layers.

valtra2

Looking for netting to bales to put on stack. Any good makes. In southeast

jntsnk

Gillespy wrote: »

6 layers is to hide mistakes along the way. Mostly by the person handling the wrapped bales but also a poorly setup wrapper. You're sitting there like a fool for eight extra rotations and wasting rolls of plastic otherwise.

Not true.

Welding Rod

For me 6 layers is nothing more than a good investment. Even more so if the stuff is good and dry when baled. With four layers on that stuff, you are guaranteed mould on the outside.
Taking the total cost of a bale, the extra euro or so for the two extra layers, is a good investment.
My gripe is about young lads turning up wrapping who don’t fudgin how to set the wrapper to apply the two extra layers. Drives me nuts.