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What is the Defence Force's equivalent of an MOS?

  • 23-04-2020 4:33pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭


    Hello,


    I am just wondering what our equivalent to an MOS (Military Occupation Specialty)?


    For context, in the American Army an Infantryman is an 11B or 11 Bravo and in the Marine Corps 0311 is an Infantry Rifleman I believe?


    Say for a bog standard Irish rifleman in a section, is he just a rifleman or does he have any special designation if that makes any sense.


    Thanks for any replies :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    We dont use an MOS system, so no special designation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Bagpipe


    We dont use an MOS system, so no special designation.


    Could you give me any insight on what system is used? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    There is no system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,094 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Unless he/she is a POS... :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Bagpipe


    There is no system.
    Esel wrote: »
    Unless he/she is a POS... :)




    So what is the system that they have called or how does it work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Bagpipe wrote: »
    So what is the system that they have called or how does it work?

    Um the Rank system.

    The below is for enlisted Infantry in the Army. The Air Corps, Naval Service, Artillery and Cavalry have different names but equivilant ranks.

    Recruit
    Private 2 Star
    Private 3 Star (Bog standard soldier in a Section).
    Corporal
    Sergeant
    Company Quartermaster Sergeant
    Company Sergeant
    Battalion Quartermaster Sergeant
    Battalion Sergeant Major

    Seperate from the Ranks, of course personnel can specialise in different areas, sometimes multiple areas but we dont use a numeric term for a speciality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Bagpipe


    Um the Rank system.

    The below is for enlisted Infantry in the Army. The Air Corps, Naval Service, Artillery and Cavalry have different names but equivilant ranks.

    Recruit
    Private 2 Star
    Private 3 Star (Bog standard soldier in a Section).
    Corporal
    Sergeant
    Company Quartermaster Sergeant
    Company Sergeant
    Battalion Quartermaster Sergeant
    Battalion Sergeant Major

    Seperate from the Ranks, of course personnel can specialise in different areas, sometimes multiple areas but we dont use a numeric term for a speciality.




    Yes its the specialties of different areas I was looking for but thank you very much anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Bagpipe wrote: »
    Yes its the specialties of different areas I was looking for but thank you very much anyway!

    No hassle. We just dont use a numeric for that stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    A technician or certain post holders are in receipt of technical pay and they might be called an aircraft technician or an engine room artificer,titles which define their role but the DF does not have a numbering system like the Americans. Our Military essentially copied the British system back when the National Army was being formed, as it was what everyone was used to, their having been so many Irish in the British military. Our rank structure would follow British systems in that we have similar ranks. The American numbering system is also to do with pay grades/specialist pay and the level of training required for a post. As an example, driving training is given to a much wider range of ranks in the US military than in the Defence Forces, because traditionally, Americans tend to have driving licenses much earlier than Irish people do, they have vastly more driving requirements in their huge military than we do and they give driving tuition much earlier in a military career than we do. It is entirely possible to spend an entire career in the DF and never have DF training to drive anything, even the smallest car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Bagpipe wrote: »
    Yes its the specialties of different areas I was looking for but thank you very much anyway!
    Why do you want to know this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Bagpipe


    roundymac wrote: »
    Why do you want to know this?


    Because I want to learn more about our Defence Forces:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭earlytobed


    It probably has changed now but in my service 80s, 90s there was a scale of technicians pay,
    Tech 1 to Tech 5 depending on qualification.
    I was Tech 5, which was pretty good, as a Private it brought pay to around the same as a line sergeant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    earlytobed wrote: »
    It probably has changed now but in my service 80s, 90s there was a scale of technicians pay,
    Tech 1 to Tech 5 depending on qualification.
    I was Tech 5, which was pretty good, as a Private it brought pay to around the same as a line sergeant

    We're gone up to tech grade 6 now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭dahamster


    We're gone up to tech grade 6 now

    Tech 6 was always there. Aircraft Inspectors in the Aer Corps had it.


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