Spray for docks and buttercup?

locky76

I’ve a paddock with dock and buttercup.
What spray would people recommend?
Thanks in advance.

hopeso

locky76 wrote: »

I’ve a paddock with dock and buttercup.
What spray would people recommend?
Thanks in advance.

Forefront T

80sDiesel

No sileage is advisable after application of forefront

_Brian

Grazon90 ?

50HX

Lupo probably cheapest option, it'll do a job on the docks and knock the buttercups

Buttercup should die off after topping then I think

Otherwise you are looking at 2 separate sprays

Bass Reeves

Problem with buttercup's is they are a sign of low pH. They will come back if you do not address this.

severeoversteer

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Problem with buttercup's is they are a sign of low pH. They will come back if you do not address this.

afraid not, i have index 4 soils and ph of 6-8 - 7 and have a bad dose of buttercup,
overgrazing i think is the problem, need to give it time between grazings i think.

Grueller

80sDiesel wrote: »

No sileage is advisable after application of forefront

Only if exporting slurry from ruminants eating the silage onto tillage ground. Could kill brassicas I think is the reason.

jayc12

Envy or Pastor Trio will kill both buttercup and docks

DBK1

80sDiesel wrote: »

No sileage is advisable after application of forefront

Forefront is the only spray that will kill docks for more than one season. I sprayed 14 acres with doxstar this time last year and it’s being sprayed with forefront today. A very expensive lesson learned. The reason I used doxstar was because I was told Forefront could not be used on silage ground and it was silage ground being sprayed. After doing some research since and the reason it’s not to be used on silage ground is because there may be some residue of the forefront in the silage. It does no harm to livestock eating it but it can pass through in the dung and if this slurry or dung is then spread on tillage or vegetable ground it can have an effect on it. So basically if you are going to use it on silage ground then it is fine so long as the slurry from the stock that eat the silage is kept on your own farm and only spread on grassland.

DBK1

DBK1 wrote: »

Forefront is the only spray that will kill docks for more than one season. I sprayed 14 acres with doxstar this time last year and it’s being sprayed with forefront today. A very expensive lesson learned. The reason I used doxstar was because I was told Forefront could not be used on silage ground and it was silage ground being sprayed. After doing some research since and the reason it’s not to be used on silage ground is because there may be some residue of the forefront in the silage. It does no harm to livestock eating it but it can pass through in the dung and if this slurry or dung is then spread on tillage or vegetable ground it can have an effect on it. So basically if you are going to use it on silage ground then it is fine so long as the slurry from the stock that eat the silage is kept on your own farm and only spread on grassland.

I should also have said on the same block of ground i sprayed another 22 acres of grazing with Forefront on the same day as the doxstar last year (yep an expensive days spraying!!) and there is not a weed or a dock to be seen in it now whereas the doxstar treated field is as bad as ever 12 months later. I’ll take some pictures today before it’s sprayed again and put them up.

80sDiesel

Great news on the forefront. I sprayed forefront a couple of weeks ago and checked today and all dying off. Wondering if I will need another appliance this autumn for any residual seeds that germinate over summer ?

Cavanjack

Had a couple of paddocks bad with docks. 2 years ago sprayed with dockstar. Plenty of docks back again last year so sprayed with forefront. Still plenty of docks on it this year albeit not as bad as before so sprayed again during the week with dockstar. If this doesn’t kill them I’m giving up.

50HX

Dock seed can lie dormant for 50 years

I think it's control rather than eradication with docks

They will cost x every year round 2 to keep on top of them

Birdnuts

50HX wrote: »

Dock seed can lie dormant for 50 years

I think it's control rather than eradication with docks

They will cost x every year round 2 to keep on top of them

They also thrive in fields with excessive amounts of nitrates in the soil - hence their persistance in modern intensively managed silage ground

dodo mommy

I used binder on the silage ground last year found it very slow to kill docks, I used agroxone on the grazing ground to clean it up. I found that agroxone killed the docks in a couple of days and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. My question is could I use agroxone on the silage ground this year?

annubis

will forefront knock back grass growth much? I have silage ground that i sprayed hurler on last year..wast of time docks all back again, similar to other here i was told not to spray forefront on ground if i was cutting silage so good to know thats incorrect

DBK1

annubis wrote: »

will forefront knock back grass growth much? I have silage ground that i sprayed hurler on last year..wast of time docks all back again, similar to other here i was told not to spray forefront on ground if i was cutting silage so good to know thats incorrect

No, forefront has no effect on the grass.

kevthegaff

dodo mommy wrote: »

I used binder on the silage ground last year found it very slow to kill docks, I used agroxone on the grazing ground to clean it up. I found that agroxone killed the docks in a couple of days and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. My question is could I use agroxone on the silage ground this year?

Just saw agroxone for 33 euros for 10l, that's just around 3-4 euro an acre very cheap

Birdnuts

kevthegaff wrote: »

Just saw agroxone for 33 euros for 10l, that's just around 3-4 euro an acre very cheap

According to Teagasc it can stunt grass growth and is not clover friendly

dodo mommy

Birdnuts wrote: »

According to Teagasc it can stunt grass growth and is not clover friendly

Maybe it wouldn't be the best for silage ground so if it stunts growth.

Attie Ross

Am going to spray for docks before second cut silage 8 Acer's, was cut 6 weeks ago am I too late. Will be cut again in fortnight.
Thanks attie.

Jb1989

Attie Ross wrote: »

Am going to spray for docks before second cut silage 8 Acer's, was cut 6 weeks ago am I too late. Will be cut again in fortnight.
Thanks attie.

3 weeks after spraying is usually the cutting or topping date. Don't think it worth doing