Phone detection cameras, NSW Australia

Apogee

Just saw a report on BBC Click on the roll out of mobile phone detection cameras in New South Wales. Probably a matter of time before we see similar here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIZ5GETaAvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci5CU-qr3cI

biko

Maybe, maybe not

pete4130

Yeah, they are mobile trailer units. So they can be anywhere. They like to put them behind big gantry signs so you can't easily see them. They have 2 cameras. One down low to get your reg and one up high to see into the vehicle. I drive by at least 2 that I take notice of on the way to work each day.

People will hate them but it has definitely reduced how much people use their phones behind the wheel in my opinion.

Unmarked motorbike cops also filter through traffic here, peering into cars to catch people out.

Unmarked......motorbike cops.....


Before they were rolled out, there was a news edit with cops manually taking photos of drivers on the M4 motorway, in slow moving traffic to catch people. One guy in a truck was using 2 phones at once while "driving".

Guy:Incognito

Mobile phone use is rampant.

If I was put on 50k a year in an unmarked car I reckon I could cover the costs for the year in a couple of weeks just driving around Tallaght and Clondalkin.

addaword

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Mobile phone use is rampant.

If I was put on 50k a year in an unmarked car I reckon I could cover the costs for the year in a couple of weeks just driving around Tallaght and Clondalkin.

Correct. Reminds me of when I was coming from a mart one day last year and some eejit crossed the road in his vehicle and nearly hit me because he was looking at his phone. Deadly dangerous.

drunkmonkey

That camera is a bit intrusive I can't see it being a runner here. Should be an NCT requirement a car has a working hands free though.

Guy:Incognito

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That camera is a bit intrusive I can't see it being a runner here. Should be an NCT requirement a car has a working hands free though.

Intrusive? Youre driving around in public in a box with windows on all sides. Theyre not climbing in your bedroom window and pulling back the curtains.

highdef

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Intrusive? Youre driving around in public in a box with windows on all sides. Theyre not climbing in your bedroom window and pulling back the curtains.

Don't mind that Monkey, he's drunk!

drunkmonkey

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Intrusive? Youre driving around in public in a box with windows on all sides. Theyre not climbing in your bedroom window and pulling back the curtains.

It's zooming into your private parts. Down with that sort of thing. Big Brother 2.0, I don't think some people will be happy if we're not in full on communism coming out of lockdown.

Markcheese

We already have a mobile traffic camera service (speed camera vans ) , it wouldn't be madly difficult to pick out the pictures of the lads on the phone ,
Admittedly a guy on a bike with appropriate cameras filtering through traffic at busy times would have way more effect .. as would a plainclothes garda (with a bodycam) ,just walking along traffic choke points ...

Vic_08

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's zooming into your private parts.

You shouldn't be playing with them while driving either.

cruizer101

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Should be an NCT requirement a car has a working hands free though.

No. Being able to answer a phone has nothing to do with the road-worthiness of a vehicle. Not being able to answer a phone doesn't effect the safety of driving.

redcup342

Del2005

Markcheese wrote: »

We already have a mobile traffic camera service (speed camera vans ) , it wouldn't be madly difficult to pick out the pictures of the lads on the phone ,
Admittedly a guy on a bike with appropriate cameras filtering through traffic at busy times would have way more effect .. as would a plainclothes garda (with a bodycam) ,just walking along traffic choke points ...

You don't even need a guy on a bike. I was a passenger in a van on the M50 during rush hour and I got an eye opener to how many people where on their phone, it was easily 30% of the cars I looked at and they wouldn’t have noticed if it was a marked van never mind an unmarked bike. I've seen the UK police using HGVs to catch truck drivers we should be using similar and not just for trucks.

What they should also do is fine people for sticking the phone in the middle of the windscreen, you are blocking a huge part of the road with a phone. The worse I saw was a couple sticking a 10" tablet to the windscreen of a i10 or similar car. It's not helped by insurance companies showing ads with their monitoring apps running with the phone in the middle of the screen.

kirving

Del2005 wrote: »

The worse I saw was a couple sticking a 10" tablet to the windscreen of a i10 or similar car.

Passed a car on the M4 with similar. Full brightness too, at night, in the rain. My car's display is out out my line of sight, goes black at, and I still turn it off most of the time a night.

As for the mobile phone cameras, they likely are a big deterrent, and I think are needed. Challenges to overarching or sieve-like like legislation, privacy concerns, and what is sure to be a joke of a tendering process will put public attitude squarely against them however.

Del2005

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Passed a car on the M4 with similar. Full brightness too, at night, in the rain. My car's display is out out my line of sight, goes black at, and I still turn it off most of the time a night.

As for the mobile phone cameras, they likely are a big deterrent, and I think are needed. Challenges to overarching or sieve-like like legislation, privacy concerns, and what is sure to be a joke of a tendering process will put public attitude squarely against them however.

It's not like the public agrees with speed cameras but they are still used. They should also have low level video cameras looking from behind to get people watching videos while driving, seeing a lot of this in the last few years.

Dravokivich

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That camera is a bit intrusive I can't see it being a runner here. Should be an NCT requirement a car has a working hands free though.

No thanks. Out of 4 relatively modern cars I've owned, only 1 natively supported this. And people will still hold their phones while talking on them. One of the images shows someone set their's to speakerphone and is still holding it!

Del2005 wrote: »

It's not like the public agrees with speed cameras but they are still used. They should also have low level video cameras looking from behind to get people watching videos while driving, seeing a lot of this in the last few years.

Would it be able to distinguish between a video and a map?

Del2005

Dravokivich wrote: »

Would it be able to distinguish between a video and a map?

Which is why I said video camera not a still camera. Easy enough to tell the difference between a map, even on satellite mode, and a video with a few seconds of watching.

Del2005

Dravokivich wrote: »

Would it be able to distinguish between a video and a map?

Which is why I said video camera not a still camera. Easy enough to tell the difference between a map, even on satellite mode, and a video with a few seconds of watching.

hoodie6029

The sooner they bring something like this in, the better. The M50 is brutal for phone use. Mostly in new enough cars too which I imagine would have bluetooth as standard.

Need something for suburban streets too. Last week a delivery driver blasted through a red light in front of me, he didn't even see it. Luckily it was a T junction and I was paying attention. Head down as he blasted through and then continued to text at the next light.

Eric Cartman

Would absolutely love these to come in, although you'd have an article in the Irish times within a month about how sexist they are. Can't remember the last time I saw a woman under 40 not using her phone edging along in traffic. Men do also do it but its absolutely rampant among women. People with the phone mounted up on the dash video calling also. A taxi driver favourite.