Fires in wicklow

FirstIn

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2020/0417/1132014-gorse-fires-wicklow/

The first line is
"Appeals have been made to the public not to start fires in exposed natural settings, after extensive damage was caused by blazes in a number of mountainous areas in recent days."

But the public have to stay within 2km of where they live! I don't understand. Do they think the public are breaking this limit to head in to the mountains to start fires? Seems unlikely.

The damage is massive to wildlife. Whoever is starting them should be prosecuted.

pablo128

The police have turned cyclists away from Sally's gap who were 50 KMS from home. There are pictures of idiots on quads and scramblers tearing up the mountains. People are idiots.

Having said that, farmers are long suspected of setting fires to burn back gorse so the sheep have more grass to eat.

Harry Palmr

It's ignorant farmers not ignorant daytrippers. Every land owner that abuts a fire zone should be visited by the Gardai.

FirstIn

Pablo, you are probably correct. It is sad. So much damage, wildlife killed. Disgusting. I hope whoever did this is prosecuted, though I fear that may not be the case.

If we did not have the lock-down it is so easy to say the public, not so easy now. Harder to blame others now. The lock-down has many unintended consequences, perhaps this is one and it stops it from happening again.

pablo128

FirstIn wrote: »

Pablo, you are probably correct. It is sad. So much damage, wildlife killed. Disgusting. I hope whoever did this is prosecuted, though I fear that may not be the case.

If we did not have the lock-down it is so easy to say the public, not so easy now. Harder to blame others now. The lock-down has many unintended consequences, perhaps this is one and it stops it from happening again.

It has been done for centuries. However nowadays there is a correct way to do it called controlled burning. It involves having the fire service present while doing it among other things. As usual we have lazy cvnts in this country who don't give a fcuk for anyone but themselves.

FirstIn

And we have an opening sentence by RTÉ which I think isn’t appropriate. The public , by and large , are in their homes. If there are a few breaking these rules the chances of them doing so to start fires is very close to zero.

Yet , the sentence is aimed at the public. I really think it should be directed elsewhere. But that’s Ireland for you.

.243

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Every land owner that abuts a fire zone should be visited by the Gardai.

most sheep farmers that have grazing permission on the hills live no where near the mountains

Wailin

Sheep farmers should be banned from being allowed to let their sheep roam in the national park. No other country allows such a ridiculous practice ffs. Burning of gorse should also be banned permanently, not just certain times of the year. Government are terrified of farmers though and this archaic practice will always continue without repercussion. Protectors of the land indeed.

.243

Wailin wrote: »

Sheep farmers should be banned from being allowed to let their sheep roam in the national park. No other country allows such a ridiculous practice ffs. Burning of gorse should also be banned permanently, not just certain times of the year.

scotland,england and wales seem to have no problem,and they regularly yearly do control burning of heather and gorse to improve the lands and habitat,you wont find anything living under 3 ft of heather,but when the growth is short ground nesting birds (grouse) reappear, mountain hares breed and deer graze on fresh grass and short flower heather,they stay up on the hills and dont have a need to travel to lowland farmland to graze on grass

pablo128

.243 wrote: »

scotland,england and wales seem to have no problem,and they regularly yearly do control burning of heather and gorse to improve the lands and habitat,you wont find anything living under 3 ft of heather,but when the growth is short ground nesting birds (grouse) reappear, mountain hares breed and deer graze on fresh grass and short flower heather,they stay up on the hills and dont have a need to travel to lowland farmland to graze on grass

Agreed but there's a way to do it properly, the right time of year, the right conditions, relevant authorities notified and on standby etc. That just doesn't happen enough in Ireland, or at all.

.243

pablo128 wrote: »

Agreed but there's a way to do it properly, the right time of year, the right conditions, relevant authorities notified and on standby etc. That just doesn't happen enough in Ireland, or at all.

oh agreed,the problem is the wicklow national park has a classification put on it by the e.u(yes by bureaucrats way over in Brussels that have more than likely never set foot in ireland) that it isnt to be touched,even if its for the good of wildlife and habitat,

tdf7187

Wailin wrote: »

Sheep farmers should be banned from being allowed to let their sheep roam in the national park. No other country allows such a ridiculous practice ffs. Burning of gorse should also be banned permanently, not just certain times of the year. Government are terrified of farmers though and this archaic practice will always continue without repercussion. Protectors of the land indeed.

The farmers and the guards are the two most powerful factions in this statelet. These days its practically illegal to criticise the guards in spite of the force having been repeatedly proven to be infested with corruption all the way to the top. A fish rots from the head down.

pablo128

.243 wrote: »

oh agreed,the problem is the wicklow national park has a classification put on it by the e.u(yes by bureaucrats way over in Brussels that have more than likely never set foot in ireland) that it isnt to be touched,even if its for the good of wildlife and habitat,

It's allowed but has to be done properly.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wicklowuplands.ie/policy/controlled-burning-practices/&ved=2ahUKEwi_-abu1fXoAhVEtnEKHYiKDDYQFjABegQICBAF&usg=AOvVaw2EMhHXIxnCZ_nkArxt75Nw

.243

pablo128 wrote: »

It's allowed but has to be done properly.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wicklowuplands.ie/policy/controlled-burning-practices/&ved=2ahUKEwi_-abu1fXoAhVEtnEKHYiKDDYQFjABegQICBAF&usg=AOvVaw2EMhHXIxnCZ_nkArxt75Nw

its allowed in the uplands of wicklow but not across the national park