Brave New World - Peacock Streaming - (**Spoilers**)

Agent Coulson

Based on the novel by Aldous Huxley.

Starring Demi Moore, Solo's Alden Ehrenreich, Hannah John-Kamen, Jessica Brown Findlay, Harry Lloyd, and more, the tale of John the Savage and an updated society sold as a utopia is getting a fittingly futuristic turn from showrunner David Wiener. Welcome to New London.

Slydice

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Hannah John-Kamen

Oh Really?!

Well I'm in for Season 1 then!

Agent Coulson

The book is well worth a read in these lockdown days.

https://archive.org/details/ost-english-brave_new_world_aldous_huxley

Slydice

I've read the first few pages before.. and liked it. I kinda have the gist of the rest of the story from other sources.

I keep meaning to get back to it. Though.. presented in TV form with Hannah John-Kamen... come oooonnnnn!

EoinMcLovin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2sMgm0Szo

JP Liz V1

Joseph Morgan, I'm in

Agent Coulson

Dropped today I've watched the first couple of episodes and I have to say I am really enjoying it and the world they are building.

Slydice

1: That was fun! What an orgy for .. ahem.. regular tv

Cool to see Hannah John-Kamen. Some very picturesque scenes shot with Alden Ehrenreich. A little bit of Han Solo vibe to it.

Slydice

2: Wow!

Didn't think they were going for a complete massacre! Guessing it's the "in" to get John the Savage back to their world.

Seeing

the world controller

in action was cool.

Agent Coulson

Up to episode 5 now and they are not shy about there orgies anyway.

Slydice

3:

Awe that scene on the rocket with the blood

Well, Johns in.

Agent Coulson

Also I must say the did not recognise Demi Moore at all till I checked who the actress was.

bluefinger

Have to look this up. One of my favourite books.

iguana

I think my main take away from this was Harry Lloyd. He did a fantastic job as Marx, who is probably the most complicated character in the story.

Agent Coulson

Finished it this morning and I must say the 3 main leads did a fantastic job to be fair to them.

duridian

I must say I thought they've used music very effectively in this show to illustrate the contrasts between the falsity of the New London existence and that of those in the "Savage" lands.

Particularly significant for me was

the moment after their return to New London where Lenina finds John's music player in his bag of personal effects where she hears real music for the first time. (Neil Young's Natural Beauty) I think JBF acted this scene very well.

Another scene enhanced very well by music was the chase in the truck with John and Linda as they fled from the massacre. (Stevie Nicks' Edge of Seventeen)

Wibbs

I dunno it felt quite flat to me. It looked great and is paced well enough, but the characters, well I didn't feel any real draw to them, JBF and Marx at best. Han Sola nope. The world of New London was all too obvious and young and sexy and the exploration of that was minimal. [insert orgy scene here] to little obvious purpose and seemed to be the only tool they had to hammer this home. The characters were so void it was hard to feel any sympathy for them, or disgust. We got a glimpse of young kids but of adolescents nada and old age was one scene, a scene and premise that deserved much more time and attention and constant references to the crematorium smoke's vivid colours didn't suffice. The whole never saw blood or tears and didn't know what virginity is just rang hollow, drugged up on goofballs or no.

duridian

Wibbs wrote: »

IThe whole never saw blood or tears and didn't know what virginity is just rang hollow, drugged up on goofballs or no.

I'd agree very much with that, They overstretched credulity with that stuff, which took somewhat from the show.

How could a society for which "orgies" had seemingly supplanted other pastimes, like sporting events, concerts etc., not at least have some concept of an intact versus a ruptured hymen?

Likewise, they can manipulate cells in a hatchery, but haven't seen blood...?? and one doesn't need to see a person cry to be aware of lacrimation, which also provides the fluid moistening the organ to which they are so fond of attaching hi-tech communications devices.
They should have thought more about such things when scripting the story.

Slydice

4: I didn't notice

the city being raised on top of Old London until the scene with the father falling. I think the father felt something deeper than was shown (maybe not) but the show (directing?/acting?)

didn't get it across well.

Anyway.

Soma time!

iguana

duridian wrote: »

How could a society for which "orgies" had seemingly supplanted other pastimes, like sporting events, concerts etc.,

This was something I found was very actually very lacking in the world building. In the book people enjoyed athletics that required specialised equipment. Part of what kept people working was to be able to afford their equipment for the sports they loved to do in their free time. I'd have loved to have seen more of that.

Slydice

5: Even More Orgy!

I wonder what's the deal with the World Controller and whether that's Indra she's talking to or another World Controller.

At this point the show could do with expanding to show just how huge the world is. It's feeling a bit narrow at the moment.

Slydice

6: Well that was wierd.

I assume this Indra AI is either glitching or maybe more performing some kind of experiment. Also some kind of ominous origin story for the world controllers.

Slydice

7: Hold on what?!

Death?! Still looks like Indra is up to something. Doubt it's to kill John though.

Slydice

8: Oh,

a revolution maybe?

Just one more episode

so it feels a bit late for it. I dunno.

Slydice

Finished! Overall: It was alright. The world felt a bit.. small? compared to the small bit of the book I'd read a few years back. Then it only got narrower as the series went on. A bit more

I-Robot than Brave New World.

9: Wow!

Yep, a revolution! That violence! I guess I'd forgotten how quickly they could go from 0 to 60 from the earlier episodes. Not sure I was expecting a .. i dunno.. kinda happy.. ish?.. ending.

Feels like they might have left a maybe-opening for a possible season 2 depending on how the series is received. I'm not sure it's enough though.

AMKC

I seen this advertised on Sky today and done a search for it here but it was just books it came up in so I take it this must be based on the book or books about it. Could be good.

JP Liz V1

AMKC wrote: »

I seen this advertised on Sky today and done a search for it here but it was just books it came up in so I take it this must be based on the book or books about it. Could be good.

For Sky 1 or Sky Atlantic?

JP Liz V1

Starts tonight on Sky 1

gmisk

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Starts tonight on Sky 1

Whole series is available to download on sky as well

gmisk

I'm up to episode 6 I like it I have to say, acting is really good and looks excellent

JP Liz V1

iguana wrote: »

I think my main take away from this was Harry Lloyd. He did a fantastic job as Marx, who is probably the most complicated character in the story.

Is he the Tom Hiddleston (Loki) lookalike?

AMKC

I thought it looked amazing. Would like to know why the America are savage countries now and Great Bratain or maybe Europe as well are so advanced and modern. It looked great but would like some backstory on why the world is the way it is.

AMKC

Well that took a turn for the worse. Much better episode than episode one and some of it is starting to make sense but some still not.

Really enjoying this so far am on ep 4

JP Liz V1

It's no Westworld but ticking along ok, can be hit and miss so far

Full_Circle_81

Just finished this today. Beyond the main and obvious plot, I found the whole thing incredibly disjointed, wasn't sure who I should root for (didn't care for anyone really) and the whole thing just played out in a very simple manner. I realise that the drugged out nature was part of the plot, but I felt like almost everyone was sleepwalking through their parts and I just didn't care what happened to them.

Set up for a second season I guess, but wouldn't really feel the need to return to it.

Is the book any better?

+1 here for not recognising Demi when she popped up. Even her trademark raspy voice seemed to be missing. She was the only character who really stood out on the show for me.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/TVLine/status/1321629653241507840

AMKC

A pity that. It had potential. A lot more than that rubbish "The Third Day" crap show. Just typical. Maybe Netfliks or Apple will pick it up or Amazon someone please.

Unearthly

Sky must feel daft advertising it every 20 minutes now :pac:

Full_Circle_81

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

Just finished this today. Beyond the main and obvious plot, I found the whole thing incredibly disjointed, wasn't sure who I should root for (didn't care for anyone really) and the whole thing just played out in a very simple manner. I realise that the drugged out nature was part of the plot, but I felt like almost everyone was sleepwalking through their parts and I just didn't care what happened to them.

Set up for a second season I guess, but wouldn't really feel the need to return to it.

Is the book any better?

+1 here for not recognising Demi when she popped up. Even her trademark raspy voice seemed to be missing. She was the only character who really stood out on the show for me.

I feel like they took the book and built on it. Worth a read


I think a few watchers above missed some points of the show.
Don't mind it being cancelled - I was happy with the conclusion it reached and not dying for more