NI joining ROI LOL

Ohio9

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Jonybgud

Talking out of yer hoop lad!

Ohio9

Jonybgud wrote: »

Talking out of yer hoop lad!

Refute the points m8

JohnnyFlash

Nordies are very dour and bad-tempered people in general. Anger seems to be the default emotion for them.

Ohio9

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Nordies are very dour and bad-tempered people in general. Anger seems to be the default emotion for them.

They seem to detest the Irish.

corner of hells

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Your second point, they dont have flags , they have "flegs".
They're also fond of balaclavas , black clothes and love a parade.

corner of hells

Ohio9 wrote: »

They seem to detest the Irish.

I've worked up there on occasion and as for detesting the "Irish" , the average one couldn't give a bollix .

alchemist33

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Refute, you say?

1. Some are British, some Irish, and some don't care. Why would you have signs up there everywhere in a united Ireland anyway? Its not like we'd take it over and impose our will

2. Again, not flags everywhere. Let them fly their union jacks in their own estates if they want, as long as they're limited in wider areas.

3. I don't know the law on this, but there are no shops selling handguns.

4. Again, why would they. We could have a new police force in a united Ireland.

5. I've worked in the NHS in the north for 20 years. They're not ideologically different. Whilst the NHS may be better organised, it's mired in regulation, and NHS outcome measures are not great in comparison with European figures.


This doesn't mean I think a UI is easy or a done deal. How Brexit pans out may have a big say in it.

All true. Even the “nationalists” have been Britified more than they’d care to admit. They all have more in common with Scotland than us.

We need to stop the self loathing and love and accept Ireland as it is. Leave them to it.

OP only stirring it, not his first rodeo. I'll listen to this instead.

Junkyard Tom

That would be Unionists and they're a minority now.

Mongfinder General

Money talks.

If Brexit works out and the gravy train of subvention from London keeps chugging along then there isn't much incentive to change.

However, if the U.K. ends up on its arse with rising unemployment, inflation and a severely weakened currency then even the most staunch unionist with any common sense is going to consider other options. Besides, the more conservative elements in the south of Ireland would welcome an alliance with similarly minded folk from the north. Unionists and loyalists would have big influence in politics if they could coalesce. Most likely partner would be Fine Gael.

An Claidheamh

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

What you are talking about are British loyalists. About 10% of the population up there. Like saying Alabama and NewYork aren't in the same country becuase the KKK wouldn't want it.

They won't be joining the Republic, they'll be going home to England.

An Claidheamh

An Claidheamh wrote: »

What you are talking about are British loyalists. About 10% of the population up there. Like saying Alabama and NewYork aren't in the same country becuase the KKK wouldn't want it.

They won't be joining the Republic, they'll be going home to England.

10%? It’s about half of them.

Danzy

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Can you even find Ireland on a map?

cj maxx

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

All true. Even the “nationalists” have been Britified more than they’d care to admit. They all have more in common with Scotland than us.

We need to stop the self loathing and love and accept Ireland as it is. Leave them to it.

I'm from the south ( just) and living in the north. Once you move away from the, western,border areas they become very N-Irish.
Though to say they hate Ireland is a stretch.
Sure during the boom the sites were full of them . Driving up and down for double the wages they'd get at home.
We're like a good looking hooker who paid them to fcuk us.
And that's the Nationalists

Jurgen Klopp

="An Claidheamh;113190061"They won't be joining the Republic, they'll be going home to England.

No doubt with an AK to their backs in your little fantasy Gerry

Your Face

This week I've mostly been eating bourbon biscuits.

Rufeo

*Darth Vader accent

Northern Ireland, join me and together we can rule the galaxy.

Church on Tuesday

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Yeah about half of NI enjoy that but their numbers are dwindling gradually

SharpshooterTom

Northern Ireland is a very divided country. Its essentially two seperate communities and I think people down south don't realise how incredibly divided it is.

90% of marriages are of the same religious background, 93% of schoolchildren go to segregated schools. Its still quite common especially in working class areas for kids to not have friend from the "other side" until adulthood.

I'm generalising here but a lot of unionists in Northern Ireland have an ethos of wanting to keep a seperate identity/culture and not to mix with "Irish natives" and that's been a tradition of theirs since the 1700s.

Demographics are changing in Northern Ireland as the native Irish population increases and that's bringing about unease in certain areas. Belfast used to be a very protestant city a few decades back now its 50/50 and will shortly have an Irish catholic majority, it already has amongst the under 50 population.

pgj2015

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a very divided country. Its essentially two seperate communities and I think people down south don't realise how incredibly divided it is.

90% of marriages are of the same religious background, 93% of schoolchildren go to segregated schools. Its still quite common especially in working class areas for kids to not have friend from the "other side" until adulthood.

I'm generalising here but a lot of unionists in Northern Ireland have an ethos of wanting to keep a seperate identity/culture and not to mix with "Irish natives" and that's been a tradition of theirs since the 1700s.

Demographics are changing in Northern Ireland as the native Irish population increases and that's bringing about unease in certain areas. Belfast used to be a very protestant city a few decades back now its 50/50 and will shortly have an Irish catholic majority, it already has amongst the under 50 population.

Does anyone know why this is the case? do catholics have more kids than protestants?

one thing I noticed when dealing with people from northern Ireland is the young people all seem to have religion, whereas in the south most young people are atheists and dont care about religion.

fryup

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Nordies are very dour and bad-tempered people in general. Anger seems to be the default emotion for them.

well if you went through 25 years of terrorism, you'd be too

* anyway they're not all like that, met a lot of sound nordies over the years

Samuel T. Cogley

pgj2015 wrote: »

Does anyone know why this is the case? do catholics have more kids than protestants?

Samuel T. Cogley

Ohio9 wrote: »

Seems like many haven't even visited there. Just to point out why they absolutely detest the "paddy"

1. No Irish language because they consider themselves British. All signs and documents are purely in English. There is absolutely no way that they will change all their signs and documents to include Irish. Remmebr they are proud to be British.
2. Flags, flags everywhere. Union jack is everywhere in Northern Ireland, even on houses which is uncommon here.
3. Gun laws, NI has much more relaxed gun laws than ROI and self defence is a valid reason for gun ownership.
4. There is absolutely no way that they would rename their Police to Gardai.
5. NHS to HSE lol need I say more?

Northern Ireland is a very different place from ROI. They seem very proud and enjoy distancing themselves from the republic. How there is even a tiny thought of joining is hilarious.

Clearly you've only been to certain parts of Northern Ireland. The big **** off sign as you enter Newry would be one example of the 'other side' of NI.

Feisar

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Money talks.

If Brexit works out and the gravy train of subvention from London keeps chugging along then there isn't much incentive to change.

However, if the U.K. ends up on its arse with rising unemployment, inflation and a severely weakened currency then even the most staunch unionist with any common sense is going to consider other options. Besides, the more conservative elements in the south of Ireland would welcome an alliance with similarly minded folk from the north. Unionists and loyalists would have big influence in politics if they could coalesce. Most likely partner would be Fine Gael.

That just about sums it up.

pgj2015

true, that is why the Scottish people decided to stay part of great britain.

flanna01

What a load of nonsense....

You're living back in the dark ages.

English, Irish, Catholic of Protestant - Who really cares??

Everybody born on the Island of Ireland, are from Ireland regardless of what their political leanings are..

Take two new born babies, one from either side of the divide, bring them up together in a log cabin in Canada, and they would be buddy's for life. when they turn 18, tell them about the strange goings on in Northern Ireland, and they would laugh at the backward mentality of the natives (not knowing they were about to be programmed from birth to follow the same set of beliefs).

The problem with the 'North' joining the Republic is the teaching passed down from the parents (both sides)

Let people believe what they want to believe.. If Johnny think's he's bonded with the good folks of London town nearly 500 miles away from him, then good luck to him. I think I'm a Jedi Knight too.

Bottom line is - Whatever we think we are, whatever flag we wave, whatever political party or religious doctrine we follow, we are all totally irrelevant in the bigger picture of things. We will all be dead in 100yrs from now, and the passage of time will forget we ever existed.

Republicanism, Loyalists, Religion, Nationality - It all means diddley squat! We must get on with our brothers & sisters who share this piece of rock with us, we'll all be gone in a blink of an eye.

4068ac1elhodqr

An Indie Scotland in a few years time will certainly confuse the harder line unionists who tend to congregate around the NE tip of Antrim and North Down.
They'll (unionists) will have to take a sudden interest in all things Welsh. Tom Jones had a few good tunes in his day, but their native lingo is loopy.

The actual mental/conceptual notion of a border is way further in than any map will show.
It's about 1/2 the size of the physical map, and includes about half of the main city also.

I’ll say one thing for the loyalists, I might not agree with their beliefs or methods but at least they still display a bit of pride in who they are.
Today was the 71st anniversary of the birth of our country and absolutely nothing in the media or anywhere about it. It’s a disgrace what we have become.

All that fandango

JohnnyFlash wrote:

Nordies are very dour and bad-tempered people in general. Anger seems to be the default emotion for them.

I used to work in a shop where surprisingly we would get loads of NI customers. Always found them really just.....odd and strange. No warmth or craic like I'd get with Irish customer.