Dispatches: The Truth About Traveller Crime - Channel 4

Atlantic Dawn

Potential for headlines when this goes out this Thursday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0C3h518wuM

Sultan of Bling

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

Potential for headlines when this goes out this Thursday...

If its about traveller crime in england it wont.

No irish channels would dare make a programme about it.

Liamo57

They should all be deported to Inishmore and let it be called Knackeragua, their own flag, own national anthem - Sullivans John. They can all claim benefits in their own country, except there will be no money to collect because knackers dont work means there will be no tax. That would put manners on them.

kennypowers

Sadly this type of investigation would never see the light of day in the Irish media.
Do you think Mag Cash would have become the poster child for a housing shortage? Would she puck.She would have been offered a house up near Birmingham and told take it or leave it.
Funnily enough with the last few weeks crime has lowered but the only ones to feature on daily news feeds are our pseudo nomadic inbreeds but of course the the papers refuse to identify their ethnicity.

fryup

Travellers?....are we talking irish tinkers or english gypsies or a combination of both?

Rodney Bathgate

The truth is it was the Amish all along.

NIMAN

Fair play to c4 for showing and investigating this.

As said, no chance that would even be considered in Ireland. You'd be classed a racist if you did. Your career would be over.

coylemj

It sounds like the producers are determined to be balanced in their telling of the story. What you see and hear may or may not tally with your experiences or prejudices.

This is the program description in the Virgin Media TV guide ...


Current affairs series. Extortion, theft, vandalism and violence: these are some of the crimes linked to several Traveller communities and sites across England. Reporter Anja Popp goes in search of the truth behind the scare stories. She talks to terrified members of the public who have experienced crime waves and intimidation, goes out on patrol with police dealing with rural crime, and hears from Travellers and their advocates, who say they suffer prejudice and attack. And for the first time Dispatches analyses the crime statistics around Traveller sites.

Harry Palmr

Traveller sites in the UK seem very big compared to here (home of the mobile tax evader).

The Black Oil

NIMAN wrote: »

Fair play to c4 for showing and investigating this.

As said, no chance that would even be considered in Ireland. You'd be classed a racist if you did. Your career would be over.

I can't see the likes of Brenda Power or Paul Williams giving a damn about being branded a racist were they to make something looking the underbelly of this particular community.

Atlantic Dawn

Bump

fin12

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Horror-at-sickening-hurley-attack-in-Blarney-shop-8858a911-7fe0-49a8-b9d3-4d70cd343fb1-ds

Mad_maxx

RTE did a report on a traveller funeral in offaly on the news yesterday evening where social distancing was non existent , what was hilarious was how the reporter almost whispered his entire report , as if they wanted to play down the inappropriate actions

gmisk

I had no idea Traveller crime was such a big issue in the UK.
Pretty scary stuff

bigroad

They need to use riot police on those scum sites and they should go in armed.

Fann Linn

gmisk wrote: »

I had no idea Traveller crime was such a big issue in the UK.
Pretty scary stuff

Circumnavigates the globe actually. Canary Islands, Australia, New Zealand....

Mad_maxx

gmisk wrote: »

I had no idea Traveller crime was such a big issue in the UK.
Pretty scary stuff

anywhere you have a large tinker population , you find crime

Atlantic Dawn

Complete joke, similar story to how they are policed over here.

rob316

I said it before any party wants to tackle the issue of traveller gangs and crime has my vote. Law onto themselves, gaurds won't go near them generally.

Mad_maxx

rob316 wrote: »

I said it before any party wants to tackle the issue of traveller gangs and crime has my vote. Law onto themselves, gaurds won't go near them generally.

no politician will risk incurring the wrath of the media , NGO and professional do-gooder sector

travellers are very powerful , they can commit crime on a vast scale yet at the same time carry a sacred victim status

thats real power

danoriordan1402

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Horror-at-sickening-hurley-attack-in-Blarney-shop-8858a911-7fe0-49a8-b9d3-4d70cd343fb1-ds

If thats the Centra in the middle of Blarney, there's a Garda station 50meters away from it - these guys don't give a flying f.

fin12

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

If thats the Centra in the middle of Blarney, there's a Garda station 50meters away from it - these guys don't give a flying f.

It’s the centra with the filing station just before the village.

Melanchthon

NIMAN wrote: »

Fair play to c4 for showing and investigating this.

As said, no chance that would even be considered in Ireland. You'd be classed a racist if you did. Your career would be over.

Channel 4 have their own blindsides, I think pikey mocking/bashing is a bit more acceptable among the more woke/liberal left in England than any other sort of -ism because a lot of them are pretty English really and are all white.

boombang

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/video-shows-man-beaten-hurley-18104008

Pythagorean

Itinerans parasiticus hiberniae, an alien invasive species, that breeds at an alarming rate, causes untold misery to those who encounter it, particularly the old and vulnerable, is a major drain on public resources, the authorities are powerless to contain it, and there is no known cure.

JPCN1

The 98% giving the 2% abad name again.

rob316

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Horror-at-sickening-hurley-attack-in-Blarney-shop-8858a911-7fe0-49a8-b9d3-4d70cd343fb1-ds

Thats the McCarthy and Stokes fued. Drive up the northside by Apple, its like a warzone with the armed checkpoints outside the haulting site.

JPCN1

Some form of three strike rule has to be considered. Build new prisons and let them rot in them.

rob316

JPCN1 wrote: »

The 98% giving the 2% abad name again.

haha :pac::pac:

JP Liz V1

gmisk wrote: »

I had no idea Traveller crime was such a big issue in the UK.
Pretty scary stuff

It's everywhere

monty_python

Can this be watched online in Ireland?

Atlantic Dawn

monty_python wrote: »

Can this be watched online in Ireland?

Yes on All4.

It's also repeated on 4Seven at 9 tonight and on Channel 4 at 11 Monday night.

monty_python

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes on All4.

It's also repeated on 4Seven at 9 tonight and on Channel 4 at 11 Monday night.

Thank you

Bredabe

JPCN1 wrote: »

The 98% giving the 2% abad name again.

I hear this a lot here, but not a single concern about how their behavior as an Irish Traveller impacted on Irish Workers in the UK when I was working there.

fryup

had to laugh at "celebrity" Traveller Paddy Doherty saying to the kids "do you want to live in a house?" the kids in unison said - No

"you see we're travellers" Doherty replied

next scene - Doherty walks into his own Big House :rolleyes:

fin12

fryup wrote: »

had to laugh at "celebrity" Traveller Paddy Doherty saying to the kids "do you want to live in a house?" the kids in unison said - No

"you see we're travellers" Doherty replied

next scene - Doherty walks into his own Big House :rolleyes:

But in fairness to Paddy Doherty I do agree with what he said about travelers, that drugs have destroyed them and the travelers that are around today are a completely different breed to the ones he was born into.

fryup

and how did Doherty make his money over the years i wonder?? door 2 door salesman?

washman3

fryup wrote: »

had to laugh at "celebrity" Traveller Paddy Doherty saying to the kids "do you want to live in a house?" the kids in unison said - No

"you see we're travellers" Doherty replied

next scene - Doherty walks into his own Big House :rolleyes:

Should have asked them if they wanted to live in a FREE house...:rolleyes:

NIMAN

fryup wrote: »

had to laugh at "celebrity" Traveller Paddy Doherty saying to the kids "do you want to live in a house?" the kids in unison said - No

"you see we're travellers" Doherty replied

next scene - Doherty walks into his own Big House :rolleyes:

But what I can't grasp is the inability of any of the younger generation to say "i don't like this lifestyle, I want to live in a normal house, get a normal job or career, go to uni" etc

They have been indoctrinated as kids, but it's the same way we are all indoctrinated into the church cos we are too young to argue, but when we grow up we make our own decisions and many decide religion ain't for us and leave it behind.

Why don't any travellers do the same?

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^

Peer pressure? begrudgery? letting the side down? letting the family down?

Anyway let's face it many travellers looking and sounding the way they do haven't got much chance of getting a regular 9-5 job, it would need a total overhaul in their lifestyle, which many are not willing to take.

*and as was suggested in the doc many are discouraged to go to secondary school, cause i suppose their families are worried they'll veer towards the settled lifestyle?

very sad scenario really

whisky_galore

The only way this sub culture is going to go the way of the dodo is if younger people get fed up of living in their own shyte, marrying teen cousins and get up, get out and better themselves.

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^

but the older generation are hell bent in keeping those old traditions

whisky_galore

fryup wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^

but the older generation are hell bent in keeping those old traditions

That's the problem.

It's this sense of pride they have. Pride in living outside the norms of everyone else in squalor.

Its not pride in your town or area, engaging and being engaged by the rest of the community, it's like that concept doesn't have any meaning for them. It's like they don't take any notice of rubbish fcuked around the place or burnt out cars and caravans.

Mad_maxx

NIMAN wrote: »

But what I can't grasp is the inability of any of the younger generation to say "i don't like this lifestyle, I want to live in a normal house, get a normal job or career, go to uni" etc

They have been indoctrinated as kids, but it's the same way we are all indoctrinated into the church cos we are too young to argue, but when we grow up we make our own decisions and many decide religion ain't for us and leave it behind.

Why don't any travellers do the same?

its an honour culture

fin12

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Hatchet-attack-in-broad-daylight-in-Blarney-315a5a61-07fb-41d5-bc93-5e0f171cfeeb-ds

I wonder is this travellers again?

bigroad

Legal aid from the tax payer and a suspended sentence. So the revolving door can happen all over again.
Who wins the legal profession of coarse.

brian_t

Ofcom has received at least 888 complaints about a Channel 4 Dispatches broadcast, The Truth About Traveller Crime, amid reports of a rise in hate speech towards the Gypsy, Roma and Traveller (GRT) community.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/02/truth-about-traveller-crime-channel-4-dispatches-show-accused-dehumanising

kennypowers

https://www.radiokerry.ie/men-kerry-links-charged-australia-scams-worth-hundreds-thousands-dollars/
It wont be long before Irish tradesmen have their reputations ruined<if not too late > by these rats.
I thought a person needed a clean criminal record to enter Australia or have these boys avoided conviction in Ireland?