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Spray docks

  • 06-04-2020 11:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭


    In a similar vein, how long should animals be kept off ground sprayed for docks??

    And same again for ragwort, how long before it’s safe to graze after being sprayed??

    2 separate parcels of land


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    TheFarrier wrote: »
    In a similar vein, how long should animals be kept off ground sprayed for docks??

    And same again for ragwort, how long before it’s safe to graze after being sprayed??

    2 separate parcels of land
    You'd be better off pulling the ragworth
    See attached leaflet on the pasture pack stuff I used last year
    Ragworth could be a full 3 weeks in my experience or more and even sprayed its very dangerous if there is a lot of it


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Just starting a thread on this as there has been a few posts on chit chat. What's available for ragwort that is clover safe?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    Just wondering guys thoughts on spraying docks in silage ground this early. Usually leave it till start of May.
    Are the nights too cold, slight frost last night or does that matter when ground heats up so much during the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    C4d78 wrote: »
    Just wondering guys thoughts on spraying docks in silage ground this early. Usually leave it till start of May.
    Are the nights too cold, slight frost last night or does that matter when ground heats up so much during the day.

    Spray away when the weather is good imo. May could come bad and you’ll never get them sprayed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    I sprayed some middle of last week and they seem to be dying off well now.
    Last year I was waiting for May and ended up not getting a chance to do them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    The normal advice is to spray when the plants are actively growing. This ensures effective uptake of the weed killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    Slight frost not a concern so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    hard frost here last night was still -1 at 7:30 this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I’m going out to spray silage ground this week frost or no frost. I usually leave it too late and say I should have done it a few weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭trg


    Would grazing ground need to be left idle? Paddock I want to do has couple cows and calves in it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭trabpc


    PoorFarmer wrote: »
    I sprayed some middle of last week and they seem to be dying off well now.
    Last year I was waiting for May and ended up not getting a chance to do them

    What spray u use?

    I used Echo Pro last year. Mixed results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    trabpc wrote: »
    What spray u use?

    I used Echo Pro last year. Mixed results.

    Doxstar Pro. 2l per hectare which is the max application. Had a huge crop of docks though so I expect to have to hit them again next spring to kill off any residual ones.
    Never had a big problem with docks but think seeds came in hay I bought 2 years back and infested some of the silage ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Is it too late for spot spraying ragwort. read conflicting claims on this. always heard over the years the winter time was the time to do them.

    something about if they've a stem albeit
    a short one this early ,chemical will not make it down to the roots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,211 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    ruwithme wrote: »
    Is it too late for spot spraying ragwort. read conflicting claims on this. always heard over the years the winter time was the time to do them.

    something about if they've a stem albeit
    a short one this early ,chemical will not make it down to the roots.

    I think it's the same as docks at the rosette stage , they call it.

    But just on the take up of herbicides. I'm not sure if many know this but there's a thing called fulvic acid that you mix with your herbicide and it's supposed to increase take up of the spray on the selected plants and be kinder to the non intended plants. It speeds up break down of the spray in the soil. And some reports have that you can decrease herbicide rates by 30%. You have to do a jar test first to see if the fulvic and herbicide mix as seemingly not all sprays will.
    Fulvic is a string that regenerative farmers in the U.S. use in their bow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,488 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We sprayed last Wednesday after the frost was finished. We didnt spot spray though


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Mod note I'm trying to pull all the grassland spraying threads into one thread to try make it a useful source of information in one place. Hope this is ok with everyone who started threads.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Using D50 for ragworth here, hopefully it did some bit of a job on them. Was gonna use grazing 90 under the wires, anyone know if that would knock ragworth? Still at rosette stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Using D50 for ragworth here, hopefully it did some bit of a job on them. Was gonna use grazing 90 under the wires, anyone know if that would knock ragworth? Still at rosette stage

    Grazon won’t kill them. Forefront would but you’re not supposed to use it in a knapsack AFAIK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Jack C


    cjpm wrote: »
    Grazon won’t kill them. Forefront would but you’re not supposed to use it in a knapsack AFAIK

    Oops... why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Does roundup kill furze?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Does roundup kill furze?

    Not for me anyway, it just stunted them but they came back again. I got better results using a product called brushwood killer and that done a good job on the baxtards. There is also another product called Garlon which is supposed to be very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    I've an issue here with nettles and Scottish thistles. What would be the best spray to use ? I want to spray them tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭trg


    Sprayed a small paddock yesterday with Grazon Pro. The thistles, nettles and docks all curling up nicely this evening.

    Twas a fairly bad infestation of docks now. I'm hopeful it'll do the trick for this season anyway but I wonder what now? It's a very small paddock earmarked for a few cameras, would ye fertilise it to drive on the grass?


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