Pressure washer.

obi604

Hi

Was looking at buying a pressure washer for basic jobs around the house. Then spotted this.

https://www.woodies.ie/lawn-garden/garden-powertools/pressure-washers/karcher-t-5-patio-cleaner-1170871

A patio cleaner.

Does this also double up as a pressure washer. Like if you pull the nozzle from the base? Or is it purely limited to a patio cleaner.

Mech1

Thats just a attachment you put on a pressure washer, no use on its own.

Bigus

That’s only an attachment for a pressure washer, you need the pressure washer too.

obi604

Ok. So the only function of this is a patio cleaner.

listermint

obi604 wrote: »

Ok. So the only function of this is a patio cleaner.

It's a plastic yoke with brushes on the inside. That's all it is.

No you haven't stumbled on a cheap pressure washer.

Mech1

No its only a plastic stick if you dont already have a pressure washer to power it.

obi604

Ok. Doh. Have ye now. Sorry its early

phormium

Don't know but Lidl or Aldi, cant remember which one I saw it on has a power washer for same price coming up in next week or so. I bought a Lidl one after Christmas for 100 euro and it's perfect for paths/patio etc

Wanderer78

phormium wrote:

Don't know but Lidl or Aldi, cant remember which one I saw it on has a power washer for same price coming up in next week or so. I bought a Lidl one after Christmas for 100 euro and it's perfect for paths/patio etc

Lidl have one next week for €80, aldi had one a week or two ago for €100, just wondering what's the opinions out there on them, I ll post links when I can? Thanks

YbFocus

Yeah the Aldi/Lidl ones are actually Lavor power washers underneath which are far better than your average Karcher.
I've one three years of near constant weekly use and it's perfect.

All the Lavor bits bolt on directly too for any attachments you may want in the future.

obi604

YbFocus wrote: »

Yeah the Aldi/Lidl ones are actually Lavor power washers underneath which are far better than your average Karcher.
I've one three years of near constant weekly use and it's perfect.

All the Lavor bits bolt on directly too for any attachments you may want in the future.

Yeah. Spotted one in lidl for 16th April.
What do ye make of this one:

Pressure Washer https://www.lidl.ie/p/p40364?productId=40364&countryCode=IE

obi604

Actually. Got a loan of a petrol one from the father

Forgot he had one.

What petrol does it take. Just standard unleaded like you put in a car, is it?

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obi604 wrote: »

What petrol does it take. Just standard unleaded like you put in a car, is it?

What other kind is there?

SEPT 23 1989

obi604 wrote: »

Actually. Got a loan of a petrol one from the father

Forgot he had one.

What petrol does it take. Just standard unleaded like you put in a car, is it?

Kerosene

obi604

Allie Mealy Hedge wrote: »

What other kind is there?

Not sure. Just checking. Been about 30 years since I last did this.

Wanderer78

any opinions on the lidl washer posted above, or any recommendations for a washer, price range no more than 200?

https://www.lidl.ie/p/p40364?product...countryCode=IE

thanks

CJhaughey

I have that exact model, I think its called a PHD 135, I have it a year or more now, no problems wash the car regularly with a snowfoam gun I got for it although the one it has is pretty good.
Washed paving slabs regularly with it usually monthly and although its not the fastest it does get the job done well with the turbo nozzle fitted.
If you are restricted by budget then go for it, however for not very much more you can get a machine with better flow rate and better cleaning performance on paving etc.
With mine I really just got it for car washing so its perfectly adequate for that purpose.

greasepalm

Wonder if it comes with 3 year warranty?
Dont buy Sealey as there crap nothing lasts long i have found.

obi604

CJhaughey wrote: »

I have that exact model, I think its called a PHD 135, I have it a year or more now, no problems wash the car regularly with a snowfoam gun I got for it although the one it has is pretty good.
Washed paving slabs regularly with it usually monthly and although its not the fastest it does get the job done well with the turbo nozzle fitted.
If you are restricted by budget then go for it, however for not very much more you can get a machine with better flow rate and better cleaning performance on paving etc.
With mine I really just got it for car washing so its perfectly adequate for that purpose.

Thanks. Would you have a link or product name for the machine with better flow rate?

CJhaughey

The difficulty is that most of these are either made in China and sold through Italy or made in Italy and given the difficulties presently are running low.
This looks like a good machine and has a hose reel, brass pump head and made in Italy https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/lavorwash-lavor-cross-140-cold-water-pressure-washer-electric-cold-water-140-bar-max-p-8482.html

obi604

Yesterday I was using a honda GP 160 petrol pressure washer. something like this: https://www.industrial-equipment.co.uk/online-tools-store/r099-3167-honda-power-washer-info.html

In general, are the petrol pressure washers simply better than the electric ones?

If I was to buy the one in lidl, would I notice a serious downgrade in power etc compared with the above?

bigtimecharlie

My electric washer is past it and now the hose to the Lance is leaking. Petrol is the way to go.

https://www.industrial-equipment.co.uk/online-tools-store/r099-4035-petrol-jet-wash-info.html

This looks ideal, anywhere in Ireland selling something similar?

Wanderer78

bigtimecharlie wrote: »

My electric washer is past it and now the hose to the Lance is leaking. Petrol is the way to go.

https://www.industrial-equipment.co.uk/online-tools-store/r099-4035-petrol-jet-wash-info.html

This looks ideal, anywhere in Ireland selling something similar?

might be worth checking out

https://ige.ie/power-washers/

CJhaughey

That one you have linked to is a pretty good unit, Interpump pumps are pretty good and its hard to beat a petrol engine for power with single phase electrics.
Comparing like with like for €800+ P+P you can buy a Kranzle or Commercial Nilfisk which will wash equally well and not need half the maintenance or suffer from periods of non use which petrol engines do not like.

That said there are plenty of Chonda engines with poor quality pumps out there as well and they are not that great in terms of flow or longevity.

How often are you using it? How big an area are you cleaning? How dirty is the area? Do you have a lot of storage space? Petrol washers have a bigger footprint than electric.
How much is your budget?

bigtimecharlie

If I could keep budget under 300 euro, I'll be happy.

Woodies have a unit for 299. Not sure how good it is?

YbFocus

YbFocus wrote: »

Yeah the Aldi/Lidl ones are actually Lavor power washers underneath which are far better than your average Karcher.
I've one three years of near constant weekly use and it's perfect.

All the Lavor bits bolt on directly too for any attachments you may want in the future.

Any Lavor I ever used was poor enough and I doubt exactly the same parts are going into the Lildi ones.

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Yeah. Spotted one in lidl for 16th April.
What do ye make of this one:

Pressure Washer https://www.lidl.ie/p/p40364?productId=40364&countryCode=IE

For those of ye in the know........What’s the difference between the above for 80 and this one for 100 Euro? Is it worth the extra 20 quid?

2400W PRESSURE WASHER https://www.lidl.ie/p/p40580?productId=40580&countryCode=IE

Calahonda52

look at the two specs
SPECIFICATIONS

Flow rate max. 420L/hr

Pressure max. 13.5MPa

(135bar)

Working pressure/

rated pressure

max. 9MPa

(90bar)

Detergent tank 600ml

Cable length 5m
vs
SPECIFICATIONS

Power consumption 2400W

Capacity max. 450L/hr

Working pressure/

rated pressure

max. 11.5MPa

(115 bar)

Pressure max. 17MPa

(170 bar)

Cable length 5m

aluminium highpressure

pump

obi604

Calahonda52 wrote: »

look at the two specs
SPECIFICATIONS

Flow rate max. 420L/hr

Pressure max. 13.5MPa

(135bar)

Working pressure/

rated pressure

max. 9MPa

(90bar)

Detergent tank 600ml

Cable length 5m
vs
SPECIFICATIONS

Power consumption 2400W

Capacity max. 450L/hr

Working pressure/

rated pressure

max. 11.5MPa

(115 bar)

Pressure max. 17MPa

(170 bar)

Cable length 5m

aluminium highpressure

pump

Had a look at that. But does not mean much to me

greasepalm

The higher the pressure and bar is cleaning the dirt off on first pass of the wand or going back and forward trying to.

JMR

obi604 wrote: »

Had a look at that. But does not mean much to me

Look at the difference in the specs between the two.

Maximum flow rate: (The volume of water that will flow in 1 hour)
The cheaper option gives Flow rate max. 420L/hr
The dearer option gives Flow rate max. 450L/hr

Working pressure: (More pressure means a stronger jet of water)
The cheaper option gives 90bar
The dearer option gives 115bar

CJhaughey

Pressure is not as important as flow rate when cleaning imo.
I'd also look at small things like having a hose reel rather than having to coil a dirty hose all the time. Small details like that make a difference in the real world.

whizbang

Flow rate is not as important as Pressure when cleaning with a pressure washer.

imo.

CJhaughey

Pressure is a unit of force, litres per minute is the ability of the washer to do work washing away the dirt that the pressure loosens.

When dealing with domestic pressure washers the flow rate is more important as the pressures generated are high enough to remove most of the kinds of dirt that are present even with a relatively low pressure of 110bar given enough flow.
The converse is that a water jet cutter operating at extremely high pressures will cut steel and stone but would not be able to effectively clean a stone path because the flow rate is not sufficient.

wexford14

Looking to get a washer to do general domestic stuff. Reasonable patio, paths etc, 2 cars, bikes.Electric over motor driven. not hugely concerned with compact machines.

what do folks know about the various brands?

Karcher?
Lavor
Stanley
Annovi Reberi?
Others?

Budget is about 250, would ideally like to get something with some decent accessories like the rotating patio tool and a foaming nozzle.

Any thoughts?

obi604

Does anyone have any thought on a 3/4 inch garden hose? Do they work well in Ireland? Think the standard here is 1/2 inch.

obi604

looking to get an extension cable reel to use with a 1500 W pressure washer
Does anyone on here know if its worthwhile getting a 13amp over a 10 amp or does it matter?

greasepalm

Always handy to have a 13amp extension lead in case of needing it for something else.
3/4 is big but do you have a feed to use it from as i think you only get 1/2 coming into your house with your stop cock tap.

obi604

greasepalm wrote: »

Always handy to have a 13amp extension lead in case of needing it for something else.
3/4 is big but do you have a feed to use it from as i think you only get 1/2 coming into your house with your stop cock tap.

na, im back to just the 1/2 inch scenario

obi604

Also. Looking at getting the water to a point about 25 metres away from the tap.

Am I as well off just having a standard hose?

Or is it just tidier to have the hose REEL scenario?

obi604

hi


silly question time.
see this video: How to: Difference Between Hose Connectors With and Without a Stop Valve - YouTube

what hose connector should be connected directly to the pressure washer

1. a standard hose connector
2. a hose connector with stop valve (aqua stop)

obi604

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obi604

Thoughts on this one:

2000W PRESSURE WASHER WITH COMPLETE ACCESSORY SET https://www.lidl.ie/p/p44884?productId=44884&countryCode=IE

muffler

obi604 wrote: »

Thoughts on this one:

2000W PRESSURE WASHER WITH COMPLETE ACCESSORY SET https://www.lidl.ie/p/p44884?productId=44884&countryCode=IE

What happened to the last one you bought?

obi604

muffler wrote: »

What happened to the last one you bought?

sold it

muffler

obi604 wrote: »

sold it

yeah, right :rolleyes: