Avoiding coronavirus reality

trapp

Would love to know others thoughts on this as it seems to me that we are avoiding the reality of the coronavirus situation in quite a few ways.

1. The idea that the current restrictions will eliminate the virus. A virus as easily transferable with such mild symptoms for most isn't going anywhere.

2. The plan of lifting restrictions gradually and using testing and contact tracing to keep numbers down. Sounds great but in reality impossible given so many will have mild symptoms or be asymptomatic. Also the idea of self isolating for two weeks, even with the will to do it, very few will do it with the discipline required, to stay in one room for two full weeks.

And didn't we try this originally in March? How far does contact tracing go; family? work? supermarket? everyone you passed while walking to the supermarket?

3. The idea of continuing a lockdown or heavily restricted situation for a long time which is being proposed by many experts, the professor with the models, cillian de gascun to name two.

So many businesses will close for good.
Families will be seperated indefinitely.
No more weddings.
No more school.
No more college, university etc.
No more team sports allowed and I don't mean big gaa matches, I mean U12 teams and so on.

Avoiding reality to suggest this is possible or sustainable.

4. The opposite of point 3 which are the people who believe we'll have concerts, full pubs, big gaa matches, holidays abroad and so on. Major soccer competitions involving travel around Europe are finished.

Again, avoiding reality.

5. That a vaccine will save the day within 12 months and will be fully safe, mass produced and rolled out around the world.

Who would take such a rushed vaccine for a start?

6. The many, many people who believe life can be lived without risk. Everything we do involves an element of risk and somewhere along the line we'll have to accept Covid as a risk, in the same way as car accidents, heart attacks, cancer etc.

Plumbthedepths

The coming depression will eclipse the present crisis. I suspect the death toll from the depression will be greater than the virus.

tdf7187

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The coming depression will eclipse the present crisis. I suspect the death toll from the depression will be greater than the virus.

Agree. The 'cure' is worse than the disease.

Plumbthedepths

Long read and no fan of the guy especially his Brendan investments caper, but even a stopped clock can be right.


https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/eddie-hobbs/eddie-hobbs-fasten-your-seatbelt-the-worst-is-yet-to-come-993618.html

HeidiHeidi

1. The idea that the current restrictions will eliminate the virus. A virus as easily transferable with such mild symptoms for most isn't going anywhere.

The idea isn't to eliminate it.


It's to allow serious infections to occur at a slow enough rate to allow the hospitals to cope.

shesty

The problem is that all the medical modelling has to be balanced with economic needs.

Simon Harris said it recently....we will have to just live with the virus for a period.

Left out of that list are herd immunity, and the improvements to the health system to manage the influx of people with the virus, so they are not overwhelmed.It is becoming a bit more complicated than just looking at models, as the mitigation measure become stronger and the initial...attack, I suppose you could say... passes.And yet easier too, because your measures can expand more .You are not solely dealing with a whole population who have never had it.

As always, time will tell.

faceman

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

The idea isn't to eliminate it.


It's to allow serious infections to occur at a slow enough rate to allow the hospitals to cope.

People just aren’t getting this. If we had a world class health system with double or triple the capacity there might not be any restrictions at all

Beasty

There are a number of threads in the Coronavirus Forum where these issues are being discussed