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Coping

  • 04-04-2020 7:57am
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    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ Curly head


    Hope everyone is coping under the pressure we’re all under. It doesn’t seem as bad here yet as other parts of the country. UHG is still quiet n waiting for the seemingly inevitable day when the rush will come.when that happens we will be here for it. In meantime let us stay inside as much as possible n keep washing n keep our distance. Look out for our neighbours, n please god we will come out the other side sometime, battered n bruised but hopefully with a changed attitude towards the future.I think the journey has just started n it will be a long one. Stay safe


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 youngrun


    Not at all.Cannot take this lockdown and nor can my family. It's restrictive and severely damaging to children and to people in general and robbing them of futures. The number of cases in Galway is small where is the justification. Are the numbers of Ill and deaths any worse than a normal flu season?? Not per HSE numbers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ at1withmyself


    youngrun wrote: »
    Not at all.Cannot take this lockdown and nor can my family. It's restrictive and severely damaging to children and to people in general and robbing them of futures. The number of cases in Galway is small where is the justification. Are the numbers of Ill and deaths any worse than a normal flu season?? Not per HSE numbers.

    I know it's been highlighted before but you should talk to someone as its not as bad as you keep making it out to be.

    Seriously stay off the Internet, go get some air and talk to someone for your own health.

    Its tough but not that bad, we'll bounce back. Italy numbers are finally stabilising, next stage for them is to start seeing them drop (fingers crossed) and South Korea & China are showing recovery is possible.

    Think positively people. Just look at the positive stories like people helping and volunteering around the country. My company is allowing a number of us to use there time and resources to source ppe for front line workers, we also have people looking at food banks etc..


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ Arrival


    youngrun wrote: »
    Not at all.Cannot take this lockdown and nor can my family. It's restrictive and severely damaging to children and to people in general and robbing them of futures.The number of cases in Galway is small where is the justification. Are the numbers of Ill and deaths any worse than a normal flu season?? Not per HSE numbers.

    Pull yourself together, will you?

    The number of cases are still small specifically because of the measures that have been put in place. Do you not see how ridiculous your logic is? You want them to lift the restrictions and only put them in place when the numbers are higher? What in the ****!

    And comparing the number of deaths to a normal flu season is moronic. This is much more infectious and lethal than any of the strains of flu which circulate. If they don't have these restrictions in place then the number of people who get it rises too quickly and the % of those people who require hospitalisation ends up completely overwhelming our healthcare staff. Then you have hospitals requiring triaging of patients and bodies being taken away by the army in trucks because there are so many. If you think I'm scaremongering, look at Italy. Stop being in denial and accept the fact that this is the actual reality of life for them because they did not act soon enough and do what we are trying to do here. We do not want to become like Italy. If the restrictions were lifted and we became like Italy, irrational people like you would be the ones condemning the government for their poor choices.

    Yes, it is hard and tiresome. But look at previous generations' hardships, look what they had to go through compared to us who simply have to stay home for a few weeks where we can still communicate really well with anyone in our lives through all the technology we have. On days where you feel it the most, please take some time to reflect on how our healthcare staff are during all of this. Doctors and nurses who've worked their entire careers have never faced anything like this, and then you have newly graduated doctors and nurses going straight into the hospitals to help cope with this. They're working 12+ hour shifts and when they go home at night they can't even hug and kiss their families, they have to isolate themselves in different rooms in their homes and be paranoid about every single thing they touch and constantly be conscious about their coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    Please picture those healthcare staff when you're feeling the agony of this situation and take some solace from the fact that you really are helping all of them out by staying home and avoiding people. It may not feel like it but it's the truth!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,356 ✭✭✭ inisboffin


    Arrival wrote: »
    Pull yourself together, will you?

    Not helpful to anybody to be so judgemental. If the poster is doing unsafe behaviour then we can call them out, but they are obviously not coping well and others have given advice like to go offline, or try to do other things. Others seem to be coping by ranting at the universe, but that may be more damaging long term.
    Boardsies love a good rant, but right now we have to try to find some compassion even when we are annoyed. Everyone reacts differently.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,895 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble


    youngrun wrote: »
    It's restrictive and severely damaging to children and to people in general and robbing them of futures.

    The only people who may be robbed of their futures are possibly ones supposed to be sitting leaving cert this year: even if they do sit, people will looking at LC-2020 results differently forever more. But they're young, they have plenty of time to make up for it later.

    Apart from that, a few weeks or even months at home with minimal formal educational input won't damage children long term - at least not out of proportion to the amount of damage that bad parenting before and afterwards might do in the least-functional of families.

    There are some small businesses which will likely to bust, and this will be life-changing for people who are too old to start again. That's one of the risks of starting a business though. It sucks. But that's why we have a safety net welfare system to care for people who reach old age without having provided for themselves. A 1brm council flat may not be what they had in mind for your old age, but it's a lot better than sleeping on the street.

    And there are people who have had to work a LOT harder than usual: health professionals, supermarket workers, IT staff. Some with catch Covid-19 - but they went into healthcare knowing there's a degree of occupational risk. Some will be suffering from the stress (I've got a few more grey hairs, I suspect) - but this isn't stealing their future, more like speeding it up a little.

    The ones who are having their future stolen are the few who die of the disease and did not have underlying conditions. By having some extreme restrictions and social distancing we're minimising the numbers of them.

    Also an unknown about the long-term effects of the virus: I've seen one article about people who got a mild dose also having some lung damage, out of proportion to their symptoms. It's early days for understanding this yet, though.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    People have different reactions to stress and use different coping mechanisms.
    What could be a breeze for someone could be very difficult for someone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ChewyLouie


    Seriously stay off the Internet, go get some air

    This.

    I'm normally a hound for news and current affairs but constant negative coverage of the same topic for weeks isn't healthy. Work out a healthy daily schedule for the "new normal" and maybe just check in on the news once a day. Take time to do what you enjoy or pick up a new hobby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ Ficheall


    ChewyLouie wrote: »
    This.
    I'd be inclined to disagree - the poster seems to believe the measures being taken are unwarranted. Doing a little reading might be exactly what they need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,778 ✭✭✭✭ Sadie Ambitious Self-restraint


    youngrun wrote: »
    Not at all.Cannot take this lockdown and nor can my family. It's restrictive and severely damaging to children and to people in general and robbing them of futures..

    How is it “severely damaging” and “robbing them of futures”. Sorry but that’s awful nonsense.

    It’s also clear that these measures are very necessary.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 youngrun


    Arrival wrote: »
    Pull yourself together, will you?

    The number of cases are still small specifically because of the measures that have been put in place. Do you not see how ridiculous your logic is? You want them to lift the restrictions and only put them in place when the numbers are higher? What in the ****!

    And comparing the number of deaths to a normal flu season is moronic. This is much more infectious and lethal than any of the strains of flu which circulate. If they don't have these restrictions in place then the number of people who get it rises too quickly and the % of those people who require hospitalisation ends up completely overwhelming our healthcare staff. Then you have hospitals requiring triaging of patients and bodies being taken away by the army in trucks because there are so many. If you think I'm scaremongering, look at Italy. Stop being in denial and accept the fact that this is the actual reality of life for them because they did not act soon enough and do what we are trying to do here. We do not want to become like Italy. If the restrictions were lifted and we became like Italy, irrational people like you would be the ones condemning the government for their poor choices.

    Yes, it is hard and tiresome. But look at previous generations' hardships, look what they had to go through compared to us who simply have to stay home for a few weeks where we can still communicate really well with anyone in our lives through all the technology we have. On days where you feel it the most, please take some time to reflect on how our healthcare staff are during all of this. Doctors and nurses who've worked their entire careers have never faced anything like this, and then you have newly graduated doctors and nurses going straight into the hospitals to help cope with this. They're working 12+ hour shifts and when they go home at night they can't even hug and kiss their families, they have to isolate themselves in different rooms in their homes and be paranoid about every single thing they touch and constantly be conscious about their coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    Please picture those healthcare staff when you're feeling the agony of this situation and take some solace from the fact that you really are helping all of them out by staying home and avoiding people. It may not feel like it but it's the truth!

    This entire episode should be questioned hard including asking questions of politicians and health experts

    The numbers to date are lower than the flu figures in a normal or even bad season
    Varadkar himself said 1000 die of flu bad season
    Similar flu levels have been seen in recent years as this virus in Europe with No Lockdown
    What is the excess mortality rate ie more deaths than usual. EUROPEAN figures suggest no increase
    How many have died with the virus but not of it ?
    What is the infection rate across a reasonable population sample?

    The restrictions have destroyed thousands of businesses half a million jobs and caused children to lose on education and their futures
    These restrictions are damaging and worse in my view than any virus
    People's liberties are being arbitrarily dictated by half a Dail over television broadcasts.is this not dictatorial.

    Galway has had very few cases and minimal hospitalised. I do not see how the health service is over run

    It is incumbent on people and their representatives to ask questions


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,344 ✭✭✭✭ ben.schlomo


    youngrun wrote: »
    This entire episode should be questioned hard including asking questions of politicians and health experts

    The numbers to date are lower than the flu figures in a normal or even bad season
    Varadkar himself said 1000 die of flu bad season
    Similar flu levels have been seen in recent years as this virus in Europe with No Lockdown
    What is the excess mortality rate ie more deaths than usual. EUROPEAN figures suggest no increase
    How many have died with the virus but not of it ?
    What is the infection rate across a reasonable population sample?

    The restrictions have destroyed thousands of businesses half a million jobs and caused children to lose on education and their futures
    These restrictions are damaging and worse in my view than any virus
    People's liberties are being arbitrarily dictated by half a Dail over television broadcasts.is this not dictatorial.

    Galway has had very few cases and minimal hospitalised. I do not see how the health service is over run

    It is incumbent on people and their representatives to ask questions

    Conspiracy forum is that way >>>. Head there with your fresh made tinfoil hat and have a blast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭ gordongekko


    youngrun wrote: »
    This entire episode should be questioned hard including asking questions of politicians and health experts

    The numbers to date are lower than the flu figures in a normal or even bad season
    Varadkar himself said 1000 die of flu bad season
    Similar flu levels have been seen in recent years as this virus in Europe with No Lockdown
    What is the excess mortality rate ie more deaths than usual. EUROPEAN figures suggest no increase
    How many have died with the virus but not of it ?
    What is the infection rate across a reasonable population sample?

    The restrictions have destroyed thousands of businesses half a million jobs and caused children to lose on education and their futures
    These restrictions are damaging and worse in my view than any virus
    People's liberties are being arbitrarily dictated by half a Dail over television broadcasts.is this not dictatorial.

    Galway has had very few cases and minimal hospitalised. I do not see how the health service is over run

    It is incumbent on people and their representatives to ask questions

    Flu kills upto 1000 people and the reason we don't close down is because people have build up a tolerance to it and the weaker in society have access to a vaccine.

    Both the uk and italy have death rate over 10% for this virus, flu rates are tiny in comparison to this. Most people are happy to stay at home for a while so that our loved ones will live. Its not like you are being ask to go to war. You are being asked to sit on your arse for a few weeks. It's tough mentally but if we don't do this then we will be in lock down for a lot longer and the measures will be much stricter.

    No education has been ruined. Its clear from the actions of the government so far that despite them not being perfect, they have made decisive steps and when needed a solution to the leaving cert will be found. Its possible that we will restart in september and have exams before christmas and a new college year starting in January.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    Thread is no longer about coping.

    There are plenty of forums on boards to handle what it turned into, none of them local.


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