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1514 prefix?

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  • 20-03-2020 6:31pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭


    I know the prefix 1514 is for premium rate numbers.

    Can anybody confirm that Dublin numbers beginning with 514 (e.g. 01 - 514 XXXX) are local numbers, not premium rate numbers?

    For example, the company below has a landline number of 01-5143388
    https://www.dewargasservice.ie/

    I assume that's just a Dublin landline number, rather than premium rate?

    I'm not sure how to tell whether a dialed number "+3531514......" is a Dublin number, or a premium rate number.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 818 ✭✭✭65535


    Premium Numbers are not contactable from outside Ireland.
    Premium Numbers do not have an International Access code.
    Similar would be 1800, 1850 or 1890

    When a 'Non Geographic' number is dialled - eg. 1800,1850,1890, 1550 etc. then that number is 'pointed' inwards to an ordinary direct dial in
    number.

    An example would be https://aib.ie/contact-details
    Where they give an 0818-724-724 number to contact them.
    They also give a number (In international format) for to contact them.
    (+353 1771 2424 (Outside Ireland)
    There is nothing stopping you from just removing the +353 and putting a 0 in front of the 1 to make that number
    01-771-2424
    Or you can just dial that +353 etc. from your mobile phone and it works because mobile use the E164 numbering format.
    The bank in this case wants you to use the non-geo 0818 number because in the past certainly it allowed them to charge for that call.

    Might I suggest you also look at
    https://www.comreg.ie/premium-rate/

    and

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭tjhook


    Brilliant, thanks. That's the bit I was missing -that premium numbers can't be called from outside the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭This is it


    Undertakings shall ensure that, where technically and economically feasible and
    except where a called subscriber has chosen for commercial reasons to limit
    access by calling parties located in specific geographical areas, end-users shall
    be able to:
    (a) access and use services using Non-Geographic Numbers within the European
    Union;

    The above is from ComReg which suggests NGN can be dialed from outside the state, though it doesn't specify Premium I would think NGN covers anything that's not a geographical number.

    With regards to the confusion between premium and Dublin numbers. Dublin numbers would be 01xxxxxxx, 9 digits in national format, or 3531xxxxxxx, 11 digits in E.164. NGN will be 10 in national format or 13 in E.164. VOIP numbers which are also classes as NGN are also 10 digits.

    Wherever you send your calls the carrier will mark this as a special number and route accordingly, it is their SBC numbering plan that decides if it's a Dublin number or a premium number.

    To answer your question, 10 digits NGN and 9/11 are Geo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 818 ✭✭✭65535


    Non Geographic Numbers such as 15xx, 18xx are not diallable from outside Ireland, that is why services provide a +353 alternative number for overseas callers.
    If you wish you can try to dial +353 15xx or +353 18xx etc. from a mobile - those numbers do not conform to international calling because their number lengths are set for NGN only.
    Example: you dial +353 1 550 123456 you would reach Dublin (01) 550 1234 with the remainder of the digits (56) being redundant.
    (01) 550 1234 is in the format of a Geographic number and is reachable from an international call.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058065883


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