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Neighbours Flue & Smoke issue

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  • 18-03-2020 12:51pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭


    The neighbours (not direct) burn solid fuel, they're actually 2 house separated from us, however those houses are unoccupied.

    The house we are in is two stories and the smokey neighbor is one story.

    The smoke is typically pushed by the wind downwards and onto the road, is there anything that can be done?
    We are in a city area so should they not be burning smokey fuels? Smells like peat to me...

    thanks,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    GodlikeRed wrote: »
    The neighbours (not direct) burn solid fuel, they're actually 2 house separated from us, however those houses are unoccupied.

    The house we are in is two stories and the smokey neighbor is one story.

    The smoke is typically pushed by the wind downwards and onto the road, is there anything that can be done?
    We are in a city area so should they not be burning smokey fuels? Smells like peat to me...

    thanks,

    https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/environment/topics/air-quality/smoky-coal-ban/Pages/Smoky-Coal-Ban-Low-Smoke-Zones.aspx


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭GodlikeRed


    Only coal it looks like.
    Is there any place you can submit a complaint related to this?


    EDIT: other smokey fuels are in the Low Smoke zone, thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    GodlikeRed wrote: »
    Only coal it looks like.
    Is there any place you can submit a complaint related to this?


    EDIT: other smokey fuels are in the Low Smoke zone, thanks!
    From the same site;

    Enforcement
    A ban on the burning of smoky coal and other prohibited fuels now applies in all smoky coal ban Low Smoke Zones (LSZs) to complement the ban on the marketing, sale and distribution.

    Complaints regarding the marketing, sale, and distribution and burning of prohibited fuels or smoky emissions from the use of prohibited fuels in Low Smoke Zones (LSZs) should be reported to the environment office of your local authority.

    Local authority staff may undertake inspections of both premises and vehicles being used for the sale and distribution of solid fuel as well as to collect samples.
    A local authority may bring a prosecution under the Air Pollution Act for breaches of the Regulations.
    The maximum fine amounts for breaches of the Regulations is € 5,000 on summary conviction.
    Fixed payment notices (or ‘on the spot fines’) applied by the local authority are in operation for alleged offences relating to the marketing, sale and distribution of prohibited fuels in Low Smoke Zones (LSZs).


    But maybe speak to the smoky neighbour first in the interest of good neighbourliness, they may not be aware .


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,220 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    GodlikeRed wrote: »
    The neighbours (not direct) burn solid fuel, they're actually 2 house separated from us, however those houses are unoccupied.

    The house we are in is two stories and the smokey neighbor is one story.

    The smoke is typically pushed by the wind downwards and onto the road, is there anything that can be done?
    We are in a city area so should they not be burning smokey fuels? Smells like peat to me...

    thanks,

    https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C37240%2Cen.pdf

    look at diagram 2 (and page 19) here

    if the flue doesnt comply with this, then its non compliant.

    theoretically draw a line from the roof of the structure its coming from, to the highest point of your roof... if the flue doesnt extend 600mm min beyond this line, its too low.


  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C37240%2Cen.pdf

    look at diagram 2 (and page 19) here

    if the flue doesnt comply with this, then its non compliant.

    theoretically draw a line from the roof of the structure its coming from, to the highest point of your roof... if the flue doesnt extend 600mm min beyond this line, its too low.

    Would this be the same for older buildings?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,220 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    booooonzo wrote: »
    Would this be the same for older buildings?

    When was the flue installed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    When was the flue installed?

    would over 100 years ago i'd assume! it's an old gate lodge


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,220 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    booooonzo wrote: »
    would over 100 years ago i'd assume! it's an old gate lodge

    Then it's very hard to have any argument.

    Id suggest some kind of collaborative resolution, such as agreeing to pay the cost of raising the flue? (steel flue?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    yeah i would of though so. its not a huge deal, sorry for hi-jacking the thread!


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