Notice period requirements - long term tenants

scot1964

Hi.

I have long term tenants, and unfortunately may need to sell my house (Tenants are great, but aren't in position to buy from me).

-Original lease 2012
-New lease (November 2016)

For required notice period, did their tenancy start in 2012 or 2016?

-I think the 2016 was part of a new 'part 4' lease at the time, so the tenancy started in 2016 and the 4 years is up in November 2020?

And if i don't sell immediately, i have to give a new part 4 cycle starting in Nov '20 (which will now be up to 6 years?)
Can i then give notice during this new period, and if so, how much?

So in summary, what is my current and future notice periods i am required to give them? And can I?

Many thanks.

Fireball81

scot1964 wrote: »

Hi.

I have long term tenants, and unfortunately may need to sell my house (Tenants are great, but aren't in position to buy from me).

-Original lease 2012
-New lease (November 2016)

For required notice period, did their tenancy start in 2012 or 2016?

-I think the 2016 was part of a new 'part 4' lease at the time, so the tenancy started in 2016 and the 4 years is up in November 2020?

And if i don't sell immediately, i have to give a new part 4 cycle starting in Nov '20 (which will now be up to 6 years?)
Can i then give notice during this new period, and if so, how much?

So in summary, what is my current and future notice periods i am required to give them? And can I?

Many thanks.

Have a look at

https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/new-changes-to-rental-legislation/new-notice-of-termination-obligations-and-procedures/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjeeprvOh6AIVh6ztCh0MhAMBEAAYASAAEgK2KvD_BwE

And

https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/ending-a-tenancy/notice-periods-that-a-landlord-should-give

Tenancy commenced 2012 so notice period has to be based on period from when it began, up to the day you give notice.

The part 4 cycle would be the 4 year type, you don’t say what date in 2012 tenancy began, as long as the 8 year anniversary has not passed, you are entitled to give notice to end tenancy at the end of the current 4 year cycle. But read up on the RTB site, make sure your termination is valid.

If they go into a new 6 year cycle, then you can only terminate on defined legal grounds, it’s a whole lot harder.

scot1964

I have all the info thanks, other than when is the start date. The original Tenancy or the start of the new Part 4?

Thanks

Fireball81 wrote: »

Have a look at

https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/new-changes-to-rental-legislation/new-notice-of-termination-obligations-and-procedures/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjeeprvOh6AIVh6ztCh0MhAMBEAAYASAAEgK2KvD_BwE

And

https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/ending-a-tenancy/notice-periods-that-a-landlord-should-give

scot1964

Thanks. The defined legal grounds would be my intention to sell.

scot1964

scot1964 wrote: »

Thanks. The defined legal grounds would be my intention to sell.

You know that you don’t need that to end a tenancy at the end of a 4 year Part 4 cycle?


Preventing a further Part 4 tenancy

If your landlord wants to stop a further Part 4 tenancy from coming into existence, they can serve a notice during the original Part 4 tenancy, with the notice period expiring on or after the end of the tenancy. A notice served in this way should provide a reason for termination. The reason does not need to be one of the valid grounds for terminating a Part 4 tenancy.

wench

It would be since they originally moved in. The part 4 rollover doesn't reset the clock.