Starting an adult "tube" site

Beeskep

Recently I've been considering the possibility of starting an adult tube website. The idea started from a case study I did looking at ways to drive traffic to websites. Long story short I found a way of getting large volumes of geniune visitors to a niche porn website and the only cost would be about 1 hour of my own time daily. I've experimented with this approach. I've uploaded a number of videos to a relatively unknown porn tube site using 2 accounts. For the videos uploaded on 1 account I used my way of driving traffic to them and after 3 days those video had an average of 2766 views each. Compared to the other videos which I uploaded on the 2nd account and did nothing to drive traffic to, they only had an average of 17 views each after 3 days. Im confident my approach for driving traffic works and is scalable.

So its got me thinking how I could possibly monitise this idea by setting up my own tube website. I wouldnt want to film anything myself. Im not planning to make porn. I'd just upload videos that are already on dozens of sites. But this would be a specific 'niche' site for these videos. And I would generate revenue through Ads. From some basic costing I reckon I could get the site up and running for about €1900 - €2000.

This would just be a way of making some extra money. I'd still have my current 9 to 5 job. But would there be anything preventing me from doing this? Is there anything ilegal about basically just being a webmaster of an adult site? I know copyright could be an issue but unlikely if videos are already free to view on site. But if a company ever contacted me to remove content I would do so. Also for something like this would it be possible not to have my personal information associated with the site? I'm not sure its something my employers would approve of me doing, even if I did it in my own time. Also from a tax prespective would my employer by made aware if I was paying tax on a second income. Clearly this side of things isn't my area of expectise!

Any advice/feedback (positive and negative) about this idea are much appreciated!

Priestess101

Beeskep wrote: »

Recently I've been considering the possibility of starting an adult tube website. The idea started from a case study I did looking at ways to drive traffic to websites. Long story short I found a way of getting large volumes of geniune visitors to a niche porn website and the only cost would be about 1 hour of my own time daily. I've experimented with this approach. I've uploaded a number of videos to a relatively unknown porn tube site using 2 accounts. For the videos uploaded on 1 account I used my way of driving traffic to them and after 3 days those video had an average of 2766 views each. Compared to the other videos which I uploaded on the 2nd account and did nothing to drive traffic to, they only had an average of 17 views each after 3 days. Im confident my approach for driving traffic works and is scalable.

So its got me thinking how I could possibly monitise this idea by setting up my own tube website. I wouldnt want to film anything myself. Im not planning to make porn. I'd just upload videos that are already on dozens of sites. But this would be a specific 'niche' site for these videos. And I would generate revenue through Ads. From some basic costing I reckon I could get the site up and running for about €1900 - €2000.

This would just be a way of making some extra money. I'd still have my current 9 to 5 job. But would there be anything preventing me from doing this? Is there anything ilegal about basically just being a webmaster of an adult site? I know copyright could be an issue but unlikely if videos are already free to view on site. But if a company ever contacted me to remove content I would do so. Also for something like this would it be possible not to have my personal information associated with the site? I'm not sure its something my employers would approve of me doing, even if I did it in my own time. Also from a tax prespective would my employer by made aware if I was paying tax on a second income. Clearly this side of things isn't my area of expectise!

Any advice/feedback (positive and negative) about this idea are much appreciated!

Just wanted to say that I liked reading about your business idea A LOT...Yeah err I wish I could give more guidance on the topic......kinda reminds me of a new Irish Naked Cleaners website (totally legit) that started in 2020...I am kicking myself for not having thought of it first. The girls are either scantily dressed, in maid costumes or fully/partially naked letting you watch them clean your apartment for you. Clients pay up to €150-300/hr a cleaning session!!!! Maybe you could contact them and ask about the legal/regulatory side of things seeing as they had no problem starting the first Naked cleaning company in Ireland. LOL

Gloomtastic!

So someone else is creating all the content and you’re collecting all the revenue.

To get them to share their content you need to share the revenue. You can’t just take content, the copyright belongs to the creator.

You’re also going up against some monsters in the online world - they won’t give new comers an easy ride and will do everything in their considerable power to stop you.

But if you can get over these hurdles, I don’t believe there’s anything legal to stop you.

Good luck to you!

Priestess101

OR you can go over to your Local Enterprise Office and see what they say. Don't let anyone stop you or put you down I still think it's a brilliant idea!

If your based in City Centre here's their website https://www.localenterprise.ie/DublinCity/

The_Honeybadger

Couple of points

Your employer does not need to know about it, you will need to make a return to revenue each year but you don’t need to involve your employer. Even if they become aware of the additional income you can be economical with the facts

There are numerous private registration services that can effectively anonymise the site for you, keeping your name off Whois searches etc so you can make it very difficult for people to find out who is behind the site

Can’t advise on the copyright issue as I don’t know much about this industry, if the site gets traction and starts to make money I’d be surprised if it doesn’t become an issue. You need to do more research in this area

By all means go to your local LEO but I know they don’t support certain sectors like gambling, tobacco, porn etc. They may be able to advise you on the legal aspects of what you are proposing

duploelabs

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

So someone else is creating all the content and you’re collecting all the revenue.

To get them to share their content you need to share the revenue. You can’t just take content, the copyright belongs to the creator.

You’re also going up against some monsters in the online world - they won’t give new comers an easy ride and will do everything in their considerable power to stop you.

But if you can get over these hurdles, I don’t believe there’s anything legal to stop you.

Good luck to you!

I'd seriously agree with the sentiment above.

The porn industry has lead the way in technology innovation. From the switch to home video cameras, betamax versus VHS, the reason why blu Ray won versus HD-dvd, and video encryption. All down to the porn industry.

It may seem shoddy because of the content, but they're not to be triffled with

ironclaw

Speaking for a technical perspective, your costs are way off for video content. You'll need serious horsepower in terms of servers and content delivery (CDNs). You can't use off the shelf providers as most of them won't permit this type of hosting (As it attracts a lot of attacks and it usually goes against their terms of service)

So you would be looking at spinning up your own servers and content delivery system (Called a CDN) to ensure your content is delivered quickly at appropriate data rates. This could cost you thousands per month for just content delivery. Google and Amazon will provide you with the servers but you'll need the tech expertise to set them up AND more importantly, guard them.

With respect to the industry itself, there is significant money in play and extreme regulation. You do put yourself near the chopping block if any content became available that was questionable or involved minors. If you are not producing the content yourself, you need to hold the copyright or have permission to do this. A studio is unlikely to grant you permission to their content and you'll need to be careful you don't meet the wrath of a regulator in another country who may just take it upon themselves to charge you or the company. Studios are regularly targeted for litigation in the US and other countries.

For Ads, this is pretty much tied up by one company called Traffic Junky. You would need an unimaginable amount of traffic to pay back your server costs on Ads alone.

In short, great idea but your costings and monetization strategy will need improvement.

Wabbit Ears

I've recently deployed large scale CDN with recorders, Storage servers etc.. you're talking millions for that kit.

Content rights... your plan disregards that. You cant steal content and load it to your tube as your suggest ( I know, you didn't use the word steal, but that what you suggested).

You could subscribe possibly to existing libraries hosted online but your again talking in the millions for that service as that what it cost for mainstream content, I doubt the stuff your referring to would be cheaper.

you could do a user submitted model, but again, you need to host and stream it on multiple devices which all required different encoding. Do you have an encoding farm handy? no, didnt think so.

lastly.. this is a dark industry, step on the wrong toes and you will cease to exist.

SixtaWalthers

Though in this recent coronavirus pandemic situation where people are looking for entertainment it could be a good idea. However, I have a serious question. From where you are going to use the content? It will come in anime or video format? What about copyright? Are you going to create own content?

I am little confused about content copyright.

antix80

Sounds like a MLM pitch.
Not doubting your motives but I'd warn off anyone from investing money with you.

ironclaw

SixtaWalthers wrote: »

Though in this recent coronavirus pandemic situation where people are looking for entertainment it could be a good idea. However, I have a serious question. From where you are going to use the content? It will come in anime or video format? What about copyright? Are you going to create own content?

I am little confused about content copyright.

The acid test for copyright, at 10,000 ft, is that unless the content is released with no strings attached (And even that is hard to do) then you need to permission to use it.

Unless the OP is generating the content or has expressed permission to use it, they most certainly don't have permission to use it.