Part time and social welfare

sinkadinka

I work part-time , 12hrs per week & pay prsi /tax etc. if my job closes during the corona crisis can I claim social welfare ?

Conall Cernach

sinkadinka wrote: »

I work part-time , 12hrs per week & pay prsi /tax etc. if my job closes during the corona crisis can I claim social welfare ?

Probably (depending on other things like how long you have paid prsi and possibly your savings etc). Why weren't you claiming it already?


I work part time in a place that has closed. Usually I fill out a form every week with the days I work and get it stamped by my employer and the SW pay me a bit to make up for the days I don't work. Now they tell me that I can fill the form myself and drop it into them without getting it stamped and they'll pay me a full JSA amount for the week while we're closed.

sinkadinka

Thanks for the reply, have been working there for 5 years ... 3 morns per week and have been paying prsi. The job was part-time when I applied for it hence why I didn’t claim for the other 2 days. Looks like they are going to close while the crisis is going on so I’m trying to see if I will be entitled to any benefit

YFlyer

If you work 3 or less days and make less than €190 a week, you be entitle to draw the dole.

Conall Cernach

sinkadinka wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, have been working there for 5 years ... 3 morns per week and have been paying prsi. The job was part-time when I applied for it hence why I didn’t claim for the other 2 days. Looks like they are going to close while the crisis is going on so I’m trying to see if I will be entitled to any benefit

It doesn't matter if it is a part time job, if you are available to work the rest of the days anywhere else you can still make a claim. My current job is only ever going to be part time but I still can claim for the rest of the week because I am looking for other work too.


The actual earnings limit for a single person working 3 days a week is close to €400. The formula they use is roughly: wages - (20 x days worked) *60% = means from work. Then they subtract that from your potential dole payment. So if you were single, no kids and earned €300 a week for 3 days you could get a €59 payment from SW provided you were available to work at least one more day. They will pay you nothing if you work 4 or more days no matter how many hours that involves or if you say you have to look after your kids the other days etc.

YFlyer

Conall Cernach wrote: »

It doesn't matter if it is a part time job, if you are available to work the rest of the days anywhere else you can still make a claim. My current job is only ever going to be part time but I still can claim for the rest of the week because I am looking for other work too.


The actual earnings limit for a single person working 3 days a week is close to €400. The formula they use is roughly: wages - (20 x days worked) *60% = means from work. Then they subtract that from your potential dole payment. So if you were single, no kids and earned €300 a week for 3 days you could get a €59 payment from SW provided you were available to work at least one more day. They will pay you nothing if you work 4 or more days no matter how many hours that involves or if you say you have to look after your kids the other days etc.

When did this €400 a week limit come in? Used to be equal or less than the weekly dole.

sinkadinka

YFlyer wrote: »

If you work 3 or less days and make less than €190 a week, you be entitle to draw the dole.

So would I be entitled to full weekly dole amount or would it be reduced because I’ve only been working 3 days a week?

sinkadinka

Conall Cernach wrote: »

It doesn't matter if it is a part time job, if you are available to work the rest of the days anywhere else you can still make a claim. My current job is only ever going to be part time but I still can claim for the rest of the week because I am looking for other work too.


The actual earnings limit for a single person working 3 days a week is close to €400. The formula they use is roughly: wages - (20 x days worked) *60% = means from work. Then they subtract that from your potential dole payment. So if you were single, no kids and earned €300 a week for 3 days you could get a €59 payment from SW provided you were available to work at least one more day. They will pay you nothing if you work 4 or more days no matter how many hours that involves or if you say you have to look after your kids the other days etc.

Bloody hell , I didn’t realize I could sign on for the other 2. I tried to make enquiries about it a while ago but I was told that because the job I applied for was part time I couldn’t claim the other days. I should have said that I was available for work for the other 2 but then again they didn’t ask me either if I was

YFlyer

sinkadinka wrote: »

So would I be entitled to full weekly dole amount or would it be reduced because I’ve only been working 3 days a week?

Looks like Conall has the formula. He is saying wage limit of €400. I think it is around €190, as it used to be, when I worked part time before.

Citizens advise website should have the details.

splinter65

YFlyer wrote: »

When did this €400 a week limit come in? Used to be equal or less than the weekly dole.

Forget about the expression “the dole”. Nothing has changed for years.
There’s JSB which is based on your PRSI record but also subject to your (this year) 2018 P60 in that even if you have enough PRSI contributions bagged that you will only get the max €203 if you had €300+ wages gross less PRSI and pension in 2018.
If you lose say, 2 days work, then you will get €203/6 X 2 JSB.
JSA is different it’s means tested.
If you are living on your own and you’re getting €203 JSA and you find a job working 3 days per week 8 hours per day @ € 11 per hour
That would give you €264 wages.
So what happens to your JSA?
Well they’ll allow for €20 per day up to a maximum of 3 days so you can take €60 from the €264. So €204.
Then they’ll only take into account 60% of the €204. So they are only interested in €122 of the €264 wages.
So they take the €122 from the €203 JSA giving you €81 JSA to go with your €264 wages.

Conall Cernach

YFlyer wrote: »

Looks like Conall has the formula. He is saying wage limit of €400. I think it is around €190, as it used to be, when I worked part time before.

Citizens advise website should have the details.

It depends on other things like if you have substantial savings or a partner that works but if you're single with no other income and less than 20k savings it works out around 390 odd for 3 days work and you'd still get something.


From the Citizens Information website:
Part 1: Find out if you have an entitlement to Jobseeker’s Allowance

First, you must find out if you have an entitlement to Jobseeker’s Allowance.
To do this take your assessable weekly earnings and deduct €20 per day for each day you have worked up to a maximum of €60 (3 days). Next get 60% of the balance. This amount is your weekly means from work.
Assessable weekly earnings - €20 per day = total x 60% = weekly means from work.
You then work out what the maximum Jobseeker’s Allowance payment for your situation would be. You get this by adding together the maximum payment for yourself plus any increases for a qualified adult and any qualified children. If your weekly means are less than this figure then your daily means are calculated to find the actual amount of Jobseeker’s Allowance you will get.
If your weekly means from all sources are greater than the maximum Jobseeker’s Allowance payment for your situation then you will not get Jobseeker’s Allowance.


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html