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Bike to Work claw back.

  • 12-03-2020 7:43pm
    #1
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭


    I have been looking at bikes recently, and online on the CSS website I noticed that bikes bought through the btw scheme are subject to a 10% clawback on the price of the bike.

    Considering my employer will be paying the €1000 up front with me paying the excess on my initial application, could someone explain why this additional cost is borne?
    Thanks.


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  • #2
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    huh? you have a link?
    you mean CSS are charging a 10% premium to handle a sale as part of BTW?


  • #3
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    huh? you have a link?
    you mean CSS are charging a 10% premium to handle a sale as part of BTW?

    As God is my judge. It's in the t&cs on the btw link. Btw and payment through one4all subject to 10% clawback.
    I'm on the phone so unable to link but when I get a chance I will. I saw it there less than 10 mins ago, hence this thread.


  • #4
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    I can't see it on the CSS website but I remember this from the start of BTW years ago, whereby any intermediary in the process charged a 10% premium. One bike shop told me that if I could have my work pay them directly they'd give me the 10% off the cost of the bike.


  • #5
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Just went back there again and to clarify and apologise. The full VIP discount is not applied to the price of the bike if bought through btw and/or one4all vouchers.

    Still, can't understand however why this discount is negated, but suppose my decision if I choose to purchase there.


  • #6
    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    any intermediary in the process charged a 10% premium. One bike shop told me that if I could have my work pay them directly they'd give me the 10% off the cost of the bike.

    This is the reason, your company isn't paying CSS it's paying a middleman to provide you with a voucher. It's an absolute con and should've been done away with from day one.


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  • #7
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    This is the reason, your company isn't paying CSS it's paying a middleman to provide you with a voucher. It's an absolute con and should've been done away with from day one.

    Not all however. My employer does it through EFT directly afaik.


  • #8
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Not all however. My employer does it through EFT directly afaik.

    If that's the case, there will be no claw back


  • #9
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    CramCycle wrote: »
    If that's the case, there will be no claw back


    I got it ar$eways, there is NO clawback through the btw, however there IS a clawback on the VIP discount thru the btw.


  • #10
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I got it ar$eways, there is NO clawback through the btw, however there IS a clawback on the VIP discount thru the btw.
    What I am saying is if your company pay direct, there should be no claw back on the discount either. The claw back is because those middle men gougers charge 10% on each sale, effectively eroding any ships ability to discount.


  • #11
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    CramCycle wrote: »
    What I am saying is if your company pay direct, there should be no claw back on the discount either. The claw back is because those middle men gougers charge 10% on each sale, effectively eroding any ships ability to discount.

    Thats great to know. Thank you.


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  • #12
    super_sweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭super_sweeney


    Deleted


  • #13
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    super_sweeney wrote: »
    deleted

    Thats not allowed and would be tax fraud. You are not permitted to ask advice about avoiding tax.


  • #14
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    MOD VOICE: As Kaisr has said, tax avoidance is illegal and talk about it, even hypothetical is not allowed.


  • #15
    super_sweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭super_sweeney


    CramCycle wrote: »
    MOD VOICE: As Kaisr has said, tax avoidance is illegal and talk about it, even hypothetical is not allowed.

    thanks did'nt cop that at all! apologies. Hind sight not the brightest question!


  • #16
    Gerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Sadly it seems most btw is through these middlemen. It took a bit of back and forth with CSS before they got it that there would be an EFT of the full amount.


  • #17
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Gerry wrote: »
    Sadly it seems most btw is through these middlemen. It took a bit of back and forth with CSS before they got it that there would be an EFT of the full amount.

    I would avoid using the term bike to work. This implies to alot of them its one of the middlemen companies. Just ask can you get a quote and you will pay the full amount by EFT. From their point of view, its the asme as you using a bank card in the shop, just takes a day or two longer to appear in their account.


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