Coronavirus Question, don't be a richardhead with your answer

mackeire

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

nullzero

You've probably done the right thing.

ratracer

I think a doctor would give you a better answer than AH to be fair...

Vic_08

Is there anything to suggest that Asthma will have any baring on the severity of Covid-19?

People with compromised immune system and other systemic issues should be concerned but asthma, does a regular cold or Flu cause your son life-threatening issues?

Talk to your doctor if you're concerned would be the best option.

auspicious

mackeire wrote: »

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

Ring the school straight away. Voice your concerns and tell them to inform you without delay of any similar developments which may pose a risk to your child.

Buford T. Justice XIX

mackeire wrote: »

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

Keep him at home and ring and inform the school of your concerns for his health.

And get them to send his homework on, just to keep him from getting bored, like:)

I don't blame you at all, especially the increased risk to his health if he contracts the virus. Seems a logical decision.

carltonleon

mackeire wrote: »

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

I would be as well...

I think the school needs to show a bit of responsibility here as well.
I know in my son's school, a family returned from Northern Italy last Saturday and the principal rang them up and asked them to keep their son off school for the following week as a precaution. Now I know it says the incubation period is 14 days but i thought that it was good that the principal was taking that responsibility to the wider school community regardless of any inconvenience it may have caused the family

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

mackeire wrote: »

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

Statistically very unnlikely - we're talking lottery-type odds here - but very understandable reaction. Probably wise, too even if it just gives you peace of mind.

If he shows even a hint of a syntom, straight to GP. Might even be an idea to do this anyway.

BattleCorp

A week or two off school won't do your kid any harm and you'll probably know by then if there is an outbreak in the school.

I don't know for sure but I reckon that someone with bad asthma would qualify as having a compromised immune system and therefore would be at risk if they got the virus.

em_cat

Yes, having asthma means your son is at a higher risk of developing more severe secondary complications if he contracted and subsequently developed an infection from same.

That’s not to say he wouldn’t make it through, it’s just that you’ve to be more cautious so keeping him home is wise.

I realise this is AH, but thought you deserved a decent reply if you are seriously asking the question.

Why take the risk? I think you did the right thing.

mackeire

em_cat wrote: »

Yes, having asthma means your son is at a higher risk of developing more severe secondary complications if he contracted and subsequently developed an infection from same.

That’s not to say he wouldn’t make it through, it’s just that you’ve to be more cautious so keeping him home is wise.

I realise this is AH, but thought you deserved a decent reply if you are seriously asking the question.

I know it's AH, but deliberately asked here as this gets the most traffic on Boards and most people will give honest answers.

Also, I know that a doctor will give the best advice but I'd like to hear how normal people would handle this situation.

BPKS

mackeire wrote: »

Question, how would you handle this?

The young lad has chronic asthma and basically if he gets this virus, I don't think he'd make it.

One of his classmates was in Rome and Naples last week and literally got off a flight from Rome on Sunday evening and went into school on Monday morning.

Now obviously I'm terrified for my child as there are confirmed cases in Rome.

We kept him off school today and are contemplating keeping him off next week aswell.

Thoughts please ...

If somebody from your kids school was in Dublin last week - where there are confirmed cases - would you keep you kid off school as well?

KaneToad

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Statistically very unnlikely - we're talking lottery-type odds here - but very understandable reaction. Probably wise, too even if it just gives you peace of mind.

If he shows even a hint of a syntom, straight to GP. Might even be an idea to do this anyway.

Its not explicitly stated above but straight to GP means that you contact GP straightaway. Don't bring a child with suspected symptoms into a GP surgery.

Yup. Keep him at home. As you know, Coronavirus does damage to the lungs anyway. Both scenarios aren't very good.

You can home school, or contact his teachers for homework/classwork to be done.. but I'd recommend doing some serious thinking about long-term behavior. Might be worth contacting others with similar problems in your area, and seeing if you could isolate them together for protection/schooling. Not easy or convenient, but...

ohnonotgmail

BPKS wrote: »

If somebody from your kids school was in Dublin last week - where there are confirmed cases - would you keep you kid off school as well?

Italy have over 2000 confirmed cases and more than 50 deaths. The number of confirmed cases in Ireland you can count on one hand. You're not comparing like with like.

BattleCorp

Deleted User wrote: »

Y Might be worth contacting others with similar problems in your area, and seeing if you could isolate them together for protection/schooling. Not easy or convenient, but...

Isolate them together.................kind of like spreading out in a bunch.

beejee

Pro and con time!

Scenario A: status quo
Pro: the odds of contracting the virus are severely reduced by avoiding possibly the worst area for spreading the disease.

Con: he misses a few weeks of school which will have zero impact on his overall education. Can have homework sent anyway.

Scenario B: He has contracted the virus by attending school

Pro: he didn't miss out on a few weeks of overall non-essential education.

Con: immunocompromised, his chances of fatality have significantly risen above the ~2% mortality rate.

Simple enough decision. Do the risks justify the gains?

mackeire

beejee wrote: »

Pro and con time!

Scenario A: status quo
Pro: the odds of contracting the virus are severely reduced by avoiding possibly the worst area for spreading the disease.

Con: he misses a few weeks of school which will have zero impact on his overall education. Can have homework sent anyway.

Scenario B: He has contracted the virus by attending school

Pro: he didn't miss out on a few weeks of overall non-essential education.

Con: immunocompromised, his chances of fatality have significantly risen above the ~2% mortality rate.

Simple enough decision. Do the risks justify the gains?

Good answer, thanks for the reply.

BPKS

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Italy have over 2000 confirmed cases and more than 50 deaths. The number of confirmed cases in Ireland you can count on one hand. You're not comparing like with like.

Italy is a big country and the red zones are in the north.

The kid from the school was in Rome (in the centre of the country) and Naples (in the south).

Italy has a population of 60 million. 2,000 confirmed cases. (1 in 30,000)

I was in Clare last week. Clare has a population of around 125,000. There are 4 confirmed cases there. (1 in 31,000).

Should I be worried cos I was in Clare?

Snake Plisken

Right choice OP especially if your child has asthma. Has he had his flu jab? Do normal colds and bugs turn into chest infections? If the answer is yes then keep him home. This Coronavirus targets the Lungs, so you have done the right thing.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Seems like the absolutely right decision.

I would call the GP office and ring the school to let them know the situation.

2ndcoming

Set fire to the school.

Better safe than sorry.

mackeire

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Right choice OP especially if your child has asthma. Has he had his flu jab? Do normal colds and bugs turn into chest infections? If the answer is yes then keep him home. This Coronavirus targets the Lungs, so you have done the right thing.

Everything turns into doctor/caredoc/hospital visits.

Heart Break Kid

mackeire wrote: »

I know it's AH, but deliberately asked here as this gets the most traffic on Boards and most people will give honest answers.

Also, I know that a doctor will give the best advice but I'd like to hear how normal people would handle this situation.

What do you mean by normal people? Normal people follow the advice of their medical professional and not the assumption and views of non medical people.

If it concerns a medical issue, I would contact a doctor, I don't think they'd like being considered not normal

Annabella1

Depends on severity of asthma
If mild (like majority) I would send -get GP telephone advice
Rome Naples well away from North Italy
High levels of Influenza in Ireland all winter
We all send our kids to school...

BattleCorp

Heart Break Kid wrote: »

Normal people follow the advice of their medical professional and not the assumption and views of non medical people.

If it concerns a medical issue, I would contact a doctor, I don't think they'd like being considered not normal

Yet a doctor comes back from a known Coronavirus hot spot bringing the virus with him and goes straight back to A&E and works his shift potentially infecting everyone else there.

I don't see the harm in the OP asking the opinion of others. They did say that they were also going to seek medical advice.

DellyBelly

The doctors don't seem to have a great grasp on the virus yet so I think you are right to ask for advice from others. I think you did the right thing. I wonder if you and other parents approached the family of the child who came back from Italy and got them to take their child out of the school?

BattleCorp

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yet a doctor comes back from a known Coronavirus hot spot bringing the virus with him and goes straight back to A&E and works his shift potentially infecting everyone else there.

I don't see the harm in the OP asking the opinion of others. They did say that they were also going to seek medical advice.

Yes indeed, there may be idiots who are on boards, and also idiots who are doctors. No harm getting a range of views, usually the good sense stands out to the sensible

Buford T. Justice XIX

mackeire wrote: »

I know it's AH, but deliberately asked here as this gets the most traffic on Boards and most people will give honest answers.

Also, I know that a doctor will give the best advice but I'd like to hear how normal people would handle this situation.

Jaysus, you're definitely in the wrong forum:D

Annabella1

DellyBelly wrote: »

The doctors don't seem to have a great grasp on the virus yet so I think you are right to ask for advice from others. I think you did the right thing. I wonder if you and other parents approached the family of the child who came back from Italy and got them to take their child out of the school?

Great idea good old fashioned witch-hunt
Did it occur to you that Northern Italy is closer to Switzerland Austria Germany France than Rome ?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

@OP - Don't worry about the Coronavirus... that's old news at this stage!

It's the plague of locusts rapidly making their way across Africa that we all now need to pay attention to... that's the big one for this month!

I wonder what we'll get next? Water will turn to blood, and flow down city streets... and hailstones the size of tennis balls, will kill anyone who dares to come out in the open!

tuisginideach

DellyBelly wrote: »

I wonder if you and other parents approached the family of the child who came back from Italy and got them to take their child out of the school?

Are you joking???? I think that is probably called 'intimidation'!

mackeire

tuisginideach wrote: »

Are you joking???? I think that is probably called 'intimidation'!

Ye me and my old lady are gonna rough them up!!!

anewme

I would let the school make the decision OP. Your child will not be the only one in the school impacted by this. The school needs to act in best interests of all.

There is a poster on poster on another thread who intends travelling to Milan despite DFA advice not to travel.

It is this type of "I'm alright Jack " attitude that puts others at risk.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Trust your instincts. Your son is in a higher risk group. Keep him off school and try to talk to a GP for advice. Schooling-wise, ask his teachers what they’ll be doing in class and if there’s any of it that ye can do with him at home.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

KaneToad wrote: »

Its not explicitly stated above but straight to GP means that you contact GP straightaway. Don't bring a child with suspected symptoms into a GP surgery.

Yeah, I know - didn't mean literally

Junkyard Tom

Does anyone have any credible medical evidence that asthma increases the risk of mortality?



community.aafa.org/

Snake Plisken

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Does anyone have any credible medical evidence that asthma increases the risk of mortality?



community.aafa.org/

Would you risk your child who gets very sick typically when they get a cold or flu? I know I wouldn't from what I've seen from China it leads to pneumonia in some victims of the virus.

ygolometsipe

Seriously, do what makes you happy. Taking him home for a month is no big deal in the long run. WHO literally WHO knows how it will turn out. Virus could mutate into something worse or safer, best play it safe.


Honestly, I think the government/WHO is doing a **** job of telling people what to do.

Junkyard Tom

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Would you risk your child...

No and I wasn't offering any medical advice. I was just wondering, as a person with asthma myself, if us wheezers were at any greater risk.

Snake Plisken

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

No and I wasn't offering any medical advice. I was just wondering, as a person with asthma myself, if us wheezers were at any greater risk.

I have Asthma too and I think we are at more risk, as the virus targets the lungs. Unfortunately for us because this is such a new virus, I don't think anyone can give us a proper study on what the impact will be for people with Asthma as it's so new, I'm hoping we will have as much chance as people who don't have Asthma but who knows at this stage.

branie2

Wash your hands thoroughly
Try not to touch your face
When you sneeze, wipe your nose with your sleeve

Junkyard Tom

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I have Asthma too and I think we are at more risk, as the virus targets the lungs. Unfortunately for us because this is such a new virus, I don't think anyone can give us a proper study on what the impact will be for people with Asthma as it's so new, I'm hoping we will have as much chance as people who don't have Asthma but who knows at this stage.

I read this report which seems to be the most comprehensive data on COVID19 available - this is the part of interest to us in the Wheezer Community:



I guess the risks to asthmatics depends on how severe it is and how well it's managed?

Still waters

I have astma myself, am i fcuked if i get the virus, I'd planned die in my 80s on a beach in Thailand but if i die due to complications from the virus because of my asthma I'm going to be rightly pissed off

Snake Plisken

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I read this report which seems to be the most comprehensive data on COVID19 available - this is the part of interest to us in the Wheezer Community:



I guess the risks to asthmatics depends on how severe it is and how well it's managed?

Yes a relation of mine has very bad asthma and I worry about them with this. I take my inhalers in the morning and night and I'm ok but if I get a cold it usually goes to my chest. I would recommend having enough inhalers to last a month or two. Not even sure that will help us Weezer's but we got to try!

Raconteuse

em_cat wrote: »

Yes, having asthma means your son is at a higher risk of developing more severe secondary complications if he contracted and subsequently developed an infection from same.

That’s not to say he wouldn’t make it through, it’s just that you’ve to be more cautious so keeping him home is wise.

I realise this is AH, but thought you deserved a decent reply if you are seriously asking the question.

mackeire wrote: »

I know it's AH, but deliberately asked here as this gets the most traffic on Boards and most people will give honest answers.

Also, I know that a doctor will give the best advice but I'd like to hear how normal people would handle this situation.

In fairness when it comes to stuff like this, people on AH drop the messing.

So far, no diagnosed children have been confirmed as faring badly thankfully.

Anxiety over those of any age with chronic lung conditions is perfectly understandable though. Imo be every bit as cautious as you feel comfortable with.

Wash and disinfect like bejaysus too.

Some news outlets are going on like it's The Stand, with scores of people dropping like flies, but it's no time to be complacent either. The mortality rate is about 3.5% which is not at all insignificant, even if that isn't evenly spread.

Take care y'all. Do whatever you feel you must.

Junkyard Tom

Snake Plisken wrote: »

us Weezer's

Out of interest Snake, do you use the preventer inhaler every day? If I could go back in time I'd sneak up on myself and give myself a hard whack across the back the head and tell myself to use the brown inhaler. So many days/weekends ruined from not being able to control my asthma with the blue/reliever inhaler.

Snake Plisken

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Out of interest Snake, do you use the preventer inhaler every day? If I could go back in time I'd sneak up on myself and give myself a hard whack across the back the head and tell myself to use the brown inhaler. So many days/weekends ruined from not being able to control my asthma with the blue/reliever inhaler.

I grew up on Ventolin and Becotide. It was just routine 2 puffs of each in the morning and at night also kept the blue Ventolin in my pocket in case of emergencies. I've since moved onto a stronger preventer inhalor told not to take Ventolin but still find myself taking the Ventolin before it.

Junkyard Tom

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I grew up on Ventolin and Becotide. It was just routine 2 puffs of each in the morning and at night also kept the blue Ventolin in my pocket in case of emergencies. I've since moved onto a stronger preventer inhalor told not to take Ventolin but still find myself taking the Ventolin before it.

Only started using the preventer quite recently, it has significantly improved the quality of my life. Should have started using it a long time ago. Ah well.