Can you get insured on a car you own for a weekend?

Dots1982

So if you own a car but it wouldn’t make sense to fully insure it because you live abroad, can you insure it for a weekend etc?

irish_goat

Yes, you need to ring an insurance provider and specify what dates you need to be insured for.

PhilOssophy

Is the car taxed?

TheW1zard

sell it. use go car

Dots1982

irish_goat wrote: »

Yes, you need to ring an insurance provider and specify what dates you need to be insured for.

And this the case even without a full policy in place currently?

To be clear I’m not going to get added to an existing policy, I’m going to need a new policy in place for just a few days in the year.

iwillhtfu

With some insurers there's a minimum duration they'll insure it. I've done this before and the min was 4 weeks.

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Is the car taxed?

What colour jocks are you wearing?

Dravokivich

Have you just asked any insurance companies?

PhilOssophy

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure.
Just hire a car for the weekend OP?

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure.
Just hire a car for the weekend OP?

Your 1% has let you down badly.


Why post when you genuinely don't know?

Del2005

There is a way to do it but you won't get away with it too often, under distance selling you can cancel the policy within 14 days. But for the cost of getting the car taxed, NCT and serviced you'd have a hire car for the weekend.

iwillhtfu

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure.

That's a myth and off topic

PhilOssophy

"Motor tax
It is a legal requirement to pay motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. Details of motor tax requirements, rates and how to apply. (Including the online motor tax payment service).

Motor insurance
Motor insurance is a compulsory requirement to drive a car in a public place. A current Certificate of Insurance is required to obtain motor tax.
"
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

"Motor tax
It is a legal requirement to pay motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. Details of motor tax requirements, rates and how to apply. (Including the online motor tax payment service).

Motor insurance
Motor insurance is a compulsory requirement to drive a car in a public place. A current Certificate of Insurance is required to obtain motor tax.
"

What part of this says you need tax for insurance to be valid?

iwillhtfu

PhilOssophy wrote: »

"Motor tax
It is a legal requirement to pay motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. Details of motor tax requirements, rates and how to apply. (Including the online motor tax payment service).

Motor insurance
Motor insurance is a compulsory requirement to drive a car in a public place. A current Certificate of Insurance is required to obtain motor tax.
"
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/

I'd suggest you read that again

PhilOssophy

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What part of this says you need tax for insurance to be valid?

They are both compulsory requirements?

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

They are both compulsory requirements?

Correct, what about your statement below?

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure.
Just hire a car for the weekend OP?

PhilOssophy

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Correct, what about your statement below?

Well feel free to enlighten me if I am wrong?

tuxy

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Well feel free to enlighten me if I am wrong?

If you have no tax but are insured and a member for the Garda stop you, you will be charged for no tax. This does not invalidate your insurance, in the case I stated you could not be charged for no insurance.

Actually there are very few things that can make your insurance invalid at least for 3rd party cover.

Using fraud to obtain the insurance in the first place is the only one I can think of.
You can be out of your mind on drink and drugs while driving unaccompanied with a learner permit and you will still be covered 3rd party.

PhilOssophy

tuxy wrote: »

If you have no tax but are insured and a member for the Garda stop you, you will be charged for no tax. This does not invalidate your insurance, in the case I stated you could not be charged for no insurance.

Actually there are very few things that can make your insurance invalid at least for 3rd party cover.

Using fraud to obtain the insurance in the first place is the only one I can think of.
You can be out of your mind on drink and drugs while driving unaccompanied with a learner permit and you will still be covered 3rd party.

Do you not need to prove that the car is taxed before insuring it? I honestly don't know, I thought you did though.

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Well feel free to enlighten me if I am wrong?

Have you found anything that supports your statement that insurance is null and void without tax?

tuxy

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Do you not need to prove that the car is taxed before insuring it? I honestly don't know, I thought you did though.

I've never been asked.

Tacitus Kilgore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Do you not need to prove that the car is taxed before insuring it? I honestly don't know, I thought you did though.

Why would you post something with 99% certainty when you don't actually know?

bren2002

To get back to topic.
You can get short term insurance but as mentioned probably not just for the weekend. I'd suggest hiring a car for the weekend is probably less hassle and less cost.

PhilOssophy

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Why would you post something with 99% certainty when you don't actually know?

Well I was right in saying that you need both. If you want to pick holes after that, you do that and have a lovely afternoon.

tuxy

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Well I was right in saying that you need both. If you want to pick holes after that, you do that and have a lovely afternoon.

But that's not what your said, try reading your original post again.

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure?

See the problem with it?
Just try not to give people false advice.
Where did you even come up with that 99% estimation?

Dots1982

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Well I was right in saying that you need both. If you want to pick holes after that, you do that and have a lovely afternoon.

“Well I was right in the statement no one disputed, I was wrong about the thing I said I was 99% sure about, i don’t know why you would have a problem with that”

Thanks to those who replied constructively. Selling and renting it is.

Mod- feel free to close the thread as answer has been provided

ted1

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Do you not need to prove that the car is taxed before insuring it? I honestly don't know, I thought you did though.

Your can tax a car for 3 months. After that period your insurance will still be valid

cruizer101

tuxy wrote: »

Using fraud to obtain the insurance in the first place is the only one I can think of.
You can be out of your mind on drink and drugs while driving unaccompanied with a learner permit and you will still be covered 3rd party.

Covered for 3rd party yes but my understanding is that is to protect the victim, they will always payout even if fraud (think it may be required by legislation that insurance companies payout) however the insurance company can come after you to recoup the funds.
Not for no tax but for other reason including no NCT, how often they do I don't know, they may often decide no worth it.

Back to OP though, how often are these weekends, a few times a year or just once.
You are not going to have any no claims bonus built up (if you already do it will vanish as only full years counted) so if the insurance was cheap enough you may be aswell to just pay for full year (particularly if you are planning coming back in future so you have no claims).

You would have to do the sums yourself but I think Go Car or similar would be best if just need car for few small trips. If want for a full weekend might be cheaper to do with car rental firm, and also have advantage of airport pickup/dropoff with that option.

Dots1982

Dots1982 wrote: »

So if you own a car but it wouldn’t make sense to fully insure it because you live abroad, can you insure it for a weekend etc?

You have a home address which isn't in Ireland?
No Irish insurer will offer you insurance if you are not resident in the Country.
All I can do with my car is polish it. I can't get insurance so I can't drive it on public roads in Ireland. If I could I would have been driving it as car hire at peak times of the year is expensive. I phoned many insurers.

Dots1982

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You have a home address which isn't in Ireland?
No Irish insurer will offer you insurance if you are not resident in the Country.
All I can do with my car is polish it. I can't get insurance so I can't drive it on public roads in Ireland. If I could I would have been driving it as car hire at peak times of the year is expensive. I phoned many insurers.

I was a named driver on an Irish resident’s insurance policy for the car previously. That is no longer an option.

Dots1982

Dots1982 wrote: »

I was a named driver on an Irish resident’s insurance policy for the car previously. That is no longer an option.

If it is any consolation I just rented a car for just over 20 euro for a long weekend so as long as you are renting in low season it can be very cheap and convenient.

galwaytt

PhilOssophy wrote: »

"Motor tax
It is a legal requirement to pay motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. Details of motor tax requirements, rates and how to apply. (Including the online motor tax payment service).

Motor insurance
Motor insurance is a compulsory requirement to drive a car in a public place. A current Certificate of Insurance is required to obtain motor tax.
"
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/

Tangent Central

galwaytt

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Do you not need to prove that the car is taxed before insuring it? I honestly don't know, I thought you did though.

No. I have car insured 12 mths of the year, but only tax it sporadically, depending on use.

tuxy

Just goes to show how badly that 1% can let someone down.

dobman88

tuxy wrote: »

Just goes to show how badly that 1% can let someone down.

Hes had an absolute mare with this one. Posts his totally incorrect statement with "99% certainty" and later admits to not actually having a clue. Why people like that even bother posting is a mystery.

seagull

tuxy wrote: »

If you have no tax but are insured and a member for the Garda stop you, you will be charged for no tax. This does not invalidate your insurance, in the case I stated you could not be charged for no insurance.

Actually there are very few things that can make your insurance invalid at least for 3rd party cover.

Using fraud to obtain the insurance in the first place is the only one I can think of.
You can be out of your mind on drink and drugs while driving unaccompanied with a learner permit and you will still be covered 3rd party.

Except that you won't be indemnified, and the insurance company can then pursue you for all costs related to the claim. So you won't be charged for driving without insurance, but could wind up with a huge bill.

tuxy

dobman88 wrote: »

Hes had an absolute mare with this one. Posts his totally incorrect statement with "99% certainty" and later admits to not actually having a clue. Why people like that even bother posting is a mystery.

It's the internet, everyone has to be an expert on every topic discussed.

mickdw

galwaytt wrote: »

No. I have car insured 12 mths of the year, but only tax it sporadically, depending on use.

It's actually the opposite way around. You have to have insurance to get tax but people are getting around this too if needed.
Back to the original question, insuring a car for a short spell is pretty difficult here.
They will require tgat a full policy is taken out for a year. Depending on company, an early cancellation can then be costly enough. If you have no recent history of driving here, that policy will cost 2 or 3k.
The whole system here is nuts. Even a resident here looking to put a second car on the road for summer or weekends is near impossible as they will say your no claims cannot apply to a second policy so make you start from scratch on the second car.
It makes a mockery of the whole idea of pricing being associated with risk - more pricing based on opportunity to ripoff.

tuxy

mickdw wrote: »

It's actually the opposite way around. You have to have insurance to get tax but people are getting around this too if needed.

A few times when renewing tax online I wasn't bothered looking up the policy number so made it up.
They still accepted my money and sent me a disk.

Odyssey 2005

PhilOssophy wrote: »

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure.
Just hire a car for the weekend OP?

And if the garda isn't wearing his hat the judge will throw the case out !!

Westernyelp

PhilOssophy wrote:

Well I was right in saying that you need both. If you want to pick holes after that, you do that and have a lovely afternoon.

You were wrong. That's ok. Accept it

g6fdyotp5nj2l7

PhilOssophy wrote:

If the car isn't taxed then any insurance is null and void I am 99% sure. Just hire a car for the weekend OP?

Utter nonsense why would you post that when you obviously haven't a clue.

mickdw

tuxy wrote: »

A few times when renewing tax online I wasn't bothered looking up the policy number so made it up.
They still accepted my money and sent me a disk.

Ya I did say people are getting around it but there should be limited enough situations where you would be looking to tax an uninsured car - possibly people driving on extensions where their insurer doesn't need the car being driven to have a policy itself.

Odyssey 2005

tuxy wrote: »

A few times when renewing tax online I wasn't bothered looking up the policy number so made it up.
They still accepted my money and sent me a disk.

Thought I was the only one who tried that:)

cml387

Marcusm

Dots1982 wrote: »

So if you own a car but it wouldn’t make sense to fully insure it because you live abroad, can you insure it for a weekend etc?

If you live abroad I do not think any Irish insurance company will insure you on an Irish car. I tried to arrange this a few years ago when I lived in the UK in the UK and wanted to keep a car at my home here for occasional use.