Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I dunno. I guess if we look at Kenneally on Murphy in 2009 as "not a red" I guess you could work it back from there.

I couldn't believe how much more 'physical' the game was way back. Like watching a different sport. Much as it pains me to say it those Kerry forwards from thier great 70's team are up there with this current Dublin team. I initially thought Kerry couldn't be as good as those Kerry people made out. I was wrong. Power, Egan and Sheehy in particular would play in any era.

I thought about making a 15 made up of Kerry 1970's/80's and Dublin 2011-2019. But realised it would be impossible. Besides keeper (cluxton) obviously there are loads of debatable positions. Would have to look at scoring average and give opponents a weighting if was going to do it right.

Dyr

My favourite "it was tougher in the old days" video:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1025302389530783745

DH2K9

I take at this stage that the county board won't be overturning the no promotion / relegation rule?

How Soon Is Now

www.rte.ie/amp/1158861/

So Paul Clarke is the latest to leave the Senior team.

gormdubhgorm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

www.rte.ie/amp/1158861/

So Paul Clarke is the latest to leave the Senior team.

O'Byrne Cup legendary manager. Must have got fed up missing out on those holliers.

Bonniedog

Unfortunately, he is not going to miss much.

Squareball

Anyone know if this weekends senior football c'ship 1/4 finals will be streamed live somewhere?

Mercee

diceyreilly

Squareball wrote: »

Anyone know if this weekends senior football c'ship 1/4 finals will be streamed live somewhere?

Mercee

Dubs TV all 4 games for €20

€7 for a single game ( bit pricey )

gormdubhgorm

diceyreilly wrote: »

Dubs TV all 4 games for €20

€7 for a single game ( bit pricey )

Not sure it is worth getting the two days as Judes v Skerries will be non event. As you say €7 for one game would be a bit pricey.

But the double header on Sunday looks good value for the 12 Euro - would be the kind of one I would go to as a neutral anyway.

Hopefully this streaming craic will catch on properly and we won't have to be relying on RTE to show just a couple of minutes of Dublin intercounty hurling highlights. Laois v Dublin hurling match was not shown live last year if I remember correctly for example. Plus I don't think Dublin v Galway hurling match was shown live last year was it? I remember being damn annoyed at the coverage and a few minutes of highlights.

I was also wondering is the fair weather fan, now going to be called a fair weather streamer instead?

Slattsy

Crokes gave Vinnies a good hiding today.

Have Vinnies regressed that much?

Skerries put it up to Judes also, fair play to them as that looked like it could be a massacre.

gormdubhgorm

Slattsy wrote: »

Crokes gave Vinnies a good hiding today.

Have Vinnies regressed that much?

Skerries put it up to Judes also, fair play to them as that looked like it could be a massacre.

Didn't see the games. But I think Vinnies have been living on game management and cuteness for years - all those times they beat Ballymun for example. Time caught up with them at last same names for years. Probably need a new influx?

gormdubhgorm

Water break 1st half

Raheny 0-4 Boden 0-4

Raheny playing cagey but could be winning forwards letting them down. Both sides hit crossbar.

HT Boden 0-9 Raheny 0-6 - Raheny five wides and cleared shot off line. Boden no wides at all.

gormdubhgorm

Draw FT Boden 1-10 Raheny 0-13

Peno won by MDM scored by R Basquel. Raheny were a man up with about 10 mins left

ProudDUB

Happy 6 in a row day ya'll !

gormdubhgorm

HT ET Raheny 0-15 Boden 1-12
Boden down to 14 again as Nelson got a BC taking down Fenton

Peno kicks if draw after next half ET

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

HT ET Raheny 0-15 Boden 1-12
Boden down to 14 again as Nelson got a BC taking down Fenton

Peno kicks if draw after next half ET

FTET Boden 2-16 Raheny 0-16

Raheny should have won it imo. Boden 2nd goal was late on followed in after hitting crossbar. Fenton missed goal chance earlier on in 2nd half ET

gormdubhgorm

HT Na Fianna 1-10 Ballymun 0-8 Conor McHugh great goal. Game is up and down I figure it could be close yet.

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

HT Na Fianna 1-10 Ballymun 0-8 Conor McHugh great goal. Game is up and down I figure it could be close yet.

Was the Dean Rock show second half in particular. Ballymun came back from 5 down to 5 ahead at one stage. McCaul got Ballymun goal and N Cooper got Na Fiannas consolation

FT BMun 1-18 NaF 2-13

gormdubhgorm

K Crokes v Bmun SF jayus good one for the neutral

corny

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Was the Dean Rock show second half in particular. Ballymun came back from 5 down to 5 ahead at one stage. McCaul got Ballymun goal and N Cooper got Na Fiannas consolation

FT BMun 1-18 NaF 2-13

Did Na Fianna collapse or did Ballymun tighten the screw? Some turnaround alright.

Should be two great games. Judes are probably weakest of the 4 but i hope they do it.

gormdubhgorm

corny wrote: »

Did Na Fianna collapse or did Ballymun tighten the screw? Some turnaround alright.

Should be two great games. Judes are probably weakest of the 4 but i hope they do it.

More Ballymun turning the screw really upped it in second half. But I felt watching that Na Fianna could have pressured them a bit more as well. Let them dictate play short kick outs etc.
By the way J Cooper got a BC late on - shocked completely out of character!

Judes and Boden could be a tough one to call considering Boden struggled against Raheny's pressure and defensive tactics. And it is Judes bread and butter - plus suits Kevin Mc on break.

Squareball

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

More Ballymun turning the screw really upped it in second half. But I felt watching that Na Fianna could have pressured them a bit more as well. Let them dictate play short kick outs etc.
By the way J Cooper got a BC late on - shocked completely out of character!

Judes and Boden could be a tough one to call considering Boden struggled against Raheny's pressure and defensive tactics. And it is Judes bread and butter - plus suits Kevin Mc on break.

Watched the Ballymun/Na Fianna game last night. In the 2nd half Kickhams were like wild dogs, tackling in packs. Last time I saw them at that was in the All-Ireland semi-final against Dr. Crokes in 2012. Not sure it's enough to get them another county championship but would love to see them do it.

gormdubhgorm

Squareball wrote: »

Watched the Ballymun/Na Fianna game last night. In the 2nd half Kickhams were like wild dogs, tackling in packs. Last time I saw them at that was in the All-Ireland semi-final against Dr. Crokes in 2012. Not sure it's enough to get them another county championship but would love to see them do it.

Could it be as simple as Ballymun being well rested for a change instead of being leggy at this time of year?
I can't remember the posters name from Ballymun (on this thread) but said plenty of times that Dublin's success sees them under perform. It was probably after one of the recent seasons were aging Vincent's team still manage to beat Ballymun.
I remember last year think first game back after Dublin 5 in a row? Na Fianna knocked Ballymun out and Ballymun looked wrecked had zero zip in them - heavy legged.

As a neutral would like to see Judes and Kevin Mc win it. Well managed team make great use of what they have. Plus would have a symmetry if Judes won. After all Kevin Mc got the ball rolling for the Dubs v Kerry in 2011 with that goal. He nearly scored a very similar goal v Skerries as well in SF.

rolling boh

R I P Tony alias molly malone died yesterday seemed to a constant presence at the matches .

gormdubhgorm

rolling boh wrote: »

R I P Tony alias molly malone died yesterday seemed to a constant presence at the matches .

Glad that the fella lived to see the five in a row. He was like a big kid at matches got real enjoyment from the game. Which is what it is all about.

Sultan of Bling

rolling boh wrote:

R I P Tony alias molly malone died yesterday seemed to a constant presence at the matches .

RIP.

A hill 16 legend.

Slattsy

Very sad. Pity he didn't get to see 6 in a row.

califano

Ballyboden st enda girls underage game abandoned earlier today because of Ballyboden coaches verbal assault on the referee late in the game.

Happy4all

Great managers have to make tough decisions. Reading a bit by Brogan on Gavin, personally, I don't think Brogan is doing himself any favours.

Happy4all

Happy4all wrote: »

Great managers have to make tough decisions. Reading a bit by Brogan on Gavin, personally, I don't think Brogan is doing himself any favours.

Which paper?

Sultan of Bling

ReginaldSmythV wrote:

Which paper?

Indo

gormdubhgorm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Which paper?

Sultan of Bling wrote: »

Indo

:eek:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-bernard-brogan-autobiography-part-one-dermos-return-and-the-phone-call-from-gavin-that-ended-it-for-me-39506224.html

Jesus, the ego has landed!
I lost a bit of 'respect' for Bernard after reading that. Comes across as a right self entitled nob. Just because of the Brogan family name in GAA?

Maybe he just ratcheted it up to sell his book? Does not sound good at all.

BonnieSituation

Really? I would have been more miffed if he took that on the chin, especially considering how we were a bit wound up with his omission.

I think the honesty in the moment stands to him.

Slattsy

Seems fair to me. I think a lot of us were quite puzzled by it. I personally thought he earned his chance to make the squad.

CatInABox

Yeah, I feared the worst from the comments above, but everything he wrote is pretty fair. I think that if the players aren't open about displaying that kind of drive and desire with the manager, then they're probably not going to make the team, to be honest.

gormdubhgorm

CatInABox wrote: »

Yeah, I feared the worst from the comments above, but everything he wrote is pretty fair. I think that if the players aren't open about displaying that kind of drive and desire with the manager, then they're probably not going to make the team, to be honest.

It was the comparison to Connolly that annoyed me more. I think Connolly always has the potential to offer more than Bernard on the pitch and Jim thought the same.
He has to make the calls (rightly or wrongly). He was the manager.

https://www.the42.ie/dublin-kerry-all-ireland-4791456-Sep2019/

Brogan was called back on panel for the Final replay but did not even come on as one of the five subs. He had just slipped down the pecking order as simple as that.


https://www.the42.ie/dublin-kerry-all-ireland-2-4808774-Sep2019/


I remember there were calls for sentimental appearance for Bernard as a sub in the replay.

But fair play to Gavin he stuck to his guns did what he thought was best for the team. No Brogan sub. And lets be honest bar 2014 he has not got much wrong has he?

Reminds me a bit of Paidi O'Se whinging and sulking when Micko dropped him. And he did not talk to O'Dwyer for years. Then realised O'Dywer was right!

Dyr

"So we're looking at when and how to run some corporate days where Immedis can get some of their key European clients in the same room as Shane to further activate that sponsorship."

Ross O'Carroll Kelly: the GAA years

BonnieSituation

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It was the comparison to Connolly that annoyed me more. I think Connolly always has the potential to offer more than Bernard on the pitch and Jim thought the same.
He has to make the calls (rightly or wrongly). He was the manager.

https://www.the42.ie/dublin-kerry-all-ireland-4791456-Sep2019/

Brogan was called back on panel for the Final replay but did not even come on as one of the five subs. He had just slipped down the pecking order as simple as that.


https://www.the42.ie/dublin-kerry-all-ireland-2-4808774-Sep2019/


I remember there were calls for sentimental appearance for Bernard as a sub in the replay.

But fair play to Gavin he stuck to his guns did what he thought was best for the team. No Brogan sub. And lets be honest bar 2014 he has not got much wrong has he?

Reminds me a bit of Paidi O'Se whinging and sulking when Micko dropped him. And he did not talk to O'Dwyer for years. Then realised O'Dywer was right!

Why was he even brought on v Tyrone then?

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Why was he even brought on v Tyrone then?

Presumably Gavin thought that would be enough of a token gesture and send off for him.

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Why was he even brought on v Tyrone then?

The Omagh game was about giving some fellas a run out (semi competitive experiment) like Bugler, McDaid, O'Carroll - Brogan was given his chance/farewell at 45 minutes.

https://www.the42.ie/dublin-tyrone-all-ireland-football-4752645-Aug2019/

I remember giving out/laughing about Connolly having nothing to do just played as playmaker in that game - limited/no contact and long passes.
Never saw the likes of it before so obvious in a Gaelic football match.
But it worked it was obviously Gavin's thinking in trying it out.

rolling boh

I remember in the Tyrone game Berno going nuts when someone took a point when he was in the middle with a goal at his mercy it was a dead rubber game but I wonder if Jim seening that might have thought Berno would be trying too hard to score himself in the next game . I will always have fond memories of Berno though he was a great player at his peak but Jim had to do what he thought was best for the team and that worked out well overall .

BonnieSituation

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Presumably Gavin thought that would be enough of a token gesture and send off for him.

Wait, so how does this marry with the prevailing notion that JG doesn't do sentiment?

It's bollox tbh.

BonnieSituation

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The Omagh game was about giving some fellas a run out (semi competitive experiment) like Bugler, McDaid, O'Carroll - Brogan was given his chance/farewell at 45 minutes.

https://www.the42.ie/dublin-tyrone-all-ireland-football-4752645-Aug2019/

I remember giving out/laughing about Connolly having nothing to do just played as playmaker in that game - limited/no contact and long passes.
Never saw the likes of it before so obvious in a Gaelic football match.
But it worked it was obviously Gavin's thinking in trying it out.

I was at the game.

rolling boh wrote: »

I remember in the Tyrone game Berno going nuts when someone took a point when he was in the middle with a goal at his mercy it was a dead rubber game but I wonder if Jim seening that might have thought Berno would be trying too hard to score himself in the next game . I will always have fond memories of Berno though he was a great player at his peak but Jim had to do what he thought was best for the team and that worked out well overall .

I remember the commentary on here and elsewhere of Brogan going mad for that chance was a sign of his hunger and it's good to have him back.

I can't recall your exact opinion at the time but a lot of this seems revisionsist to me tbh.

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Also, I'm so happy to be talking football again.

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Either JG does sentiment or not.

Of course he does, he's human. Just maybe not an abundance of it.

It was a risk free scenario anyway.

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Either JG does sentiment or not.

It was BB's last run v Tyrone.
Whether it was sentiment and/or whether it was his last chance (and he blew it) only Jim knows,

I would much rather a fella being given a chance like that in dead rubber, instead of an All Ireland final.
Especially if the manager thinks there are better options when it comes to the crunch.

There was a large spread of scorers that day in Omagh. All the talk was about Bulger, McDaid and Connolly's new role. Plus whether ROC was past it. Can't remember much specific BB chat either way if I am honest.

A lot will be buying the book at Christmas now anyway!

Slattsy

Didn't realise the game was on TG4!

Happyilylost

Shocking decision from the ref. Gives a penalty instead of an advantage. Misses the penalty.

Slattsy

You'd have to wonder what went through his head there. Ridiculous.

Brutal peno though!!

diceyreilly

Are Dublin the only county that doesn’t have a county semi final on local radio.

PARlance

Both of them eye gouging there!