what you think guys on this New Holland Tractor

samjames

not sorted yet on tractor so looking at this - all advice most welcome



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2011-New-Holland-T7040-Power-Command-50Kph/174186966081

Gawddawggonnit

samjames wrote: »

not sorted yet on tractor so looking at this - all advice most welcome



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2011-New-Holland-T7040-Power-Command-50Kph/174186966081

With those hours it mightn’t be far from a gearbox rebuild which can be costly...the power command isn’t a great box anyhow.

A 7070 or 7060 AC would be a better bet. The vario box is much more reliable and cheaper to repair if you do have to open it.

The driveshaft bearings might need to be done also...

samjames

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

With those hours it mightn’t be far from a gearbox rebuild which can be costly...the power command isn’t a great box anyhow.

A 7070 or 7060 AC would be a better bet. The vario box is much more reliable and cheaper to repair if you do have to open it.

The driveshaft bearings might need to be done also...

thanks so you think not a great buy,

Bass Reeves

Even if a tractor like that looked value unless I could go and see it in the flesh. Add Vat and sterling conversion and tractor is 37k. Just make sure it exists

Gods Gift

84p to the euro.


Tfm have a few 6920 on their website.

Bass Reeves

Gods Gift wrote: »

84p to the euro.


Tfm have a few 6920 on their website.

1/0.84=1.19.

davidk1394

Range command are a better transmission. The 50km bearing will have to be done and the bearing for the 4wd on the front will have to be done. Probably about 1k inc vat to do it. Head might have to be redone also the breaks depending on what work it was doing.

oneten

Gods Gift wrote: »

84p to the euro.


Tfm have a few 6920 on their website.

84 is wholesale rate , bank rate be 79 or 80. I reckon.

oneten

them 70 series are a bloody big , heavy tractor

bogman_bass

What are you planning to do with it?

Timmaay

oneten wrote: »

84 is wholesale rate , bank rate be 79 or 80. I reckon.

You absolutely can get stg very close to the wholesale rate, using the likes of currency fair etc, 4 or 5pence less would be absolutely robbery even by banks standards.

st1979

I would be happy to say that tractor exists. I bought my tractor from eBay from the same sellers. Got it delivered to the port. They are unimog specialist/dealers and would sell a good few case cvx tractors. Seem to do a bit of rebuilding gearboxes for cvx tractors. Straight enough to deal with.

blue5000

davidk1394 wrote: »

Range command are a better transmission. The 50km bearing will have to be done and the bearing for the 4wd on the front will have to be done. Probably about 1k inc vat to do it. Head might have to be redone also the breaks depending on what work it was doing.

Don't forget a set of tyres, those firestones are nearly knackered.

TheBoyConor

Beware that it might be a scam. Ask to go and see the tractor in the flesh. Any attempt by them to reassure or persuade you means scam.

Even so, be sure that the person you meet is actually working there. I've heard of "guerilla salesmen" going into busy yard or worksite with someone where not much notice might be taken and chancing doing a deal on a machine and take payment or a deposit and then have to "go into the office to get something, or call his boss", only to leave through a back gate never to be seen again. Top notch confidence tricksters.

mad-for-tar

davidk1394 wrote: »

Range command are a better transmission. The 50km bearing will have to be done and the bearing for the 4wd on the front will have to be done. Probably about 1k inc vat to do it. Head might have to be redone also the breaks depending on what work it was doing.

That’s on SWB models the 50k bearing issue (as well as the carrier bearing on the 4WD, the latter didn’t affect LWB models so much) doesn’t affect these LWB models. Range command also only on SWB, LWB models Power Command or Auto Command only. Heads shouldn’t give bother on these, more of an issue on the 7.5L Genesis engines that were assembled in Basildon and not the FPT ones from Turin in these.

They’re a good machine, have stood the test of time now since 2007 or thereabouts. Brakes would certainly be one thing I’d be looking at if not done already or looked at in recent times. PC gearbox does sap a lot of power, better suited to transport work than draft work. Engines are reliable and tuneable with aftermarket maps / chips. Couple of niggly electrical issues but good knowledge out there on the ground now for the end user to resolve themselves. Keep fluids changed at said intervals, keep the transmission calibrated regularly and they’ll serve you well.
But as some have said, if you can find an AC gearbox, it would be the better all rounder to have.

davidk1394

The auto command models wouldn't be too well got around my area. No real reason why. One contractor got a lot of greif with a 2012 T7.250 alright.

samjames

mad-for-tar wrote: »

That’s on SWB models the 50k bearing issue (as well as the carrier bearing on the 4WD, the latter didn’t affect LWB models so much) doesn’t affect these LWB models. Range command also only on SWB, LWB models Power Command or Auto Command only. Heads shouldn’t give bother on these, more of an issue on the 7.5L Genesis engines that were assembled in Basildon and not the FPT ones from Turin in these.

They’re a good machine, have stood the test of time now since 2007 or thereabouts. Brakes would certainly be one thing I’d be looking at if not done already or looked at in recent times. PC gearbox does sap a lot of power, better suited to transport work than draft work. Engines are reliable and tuneable with aftermarket maps / chips. Couple of niggly electrical issues but good knowledge out there on the ground now for the end user to resolve themselves. Keep fluids changed at said intervals, keep the transmission calibrated regularly and they’ll serve you well.
But as some have said, if you can find an AC gearbox, it would be the better all rounder to have.

interesting and good post mate, also there a guy selling an 2004 tm135, 11k hours but say he done the brakes,50k bearing and front axle when he bought it less than 3000h ago and now says it can be made into a 50k tractor,


needs front tyres but looking 17k stg plus vat

samjames

st1979 wrote: »

I would be happy to say that tractor exists. I bought my tractor from eBay from the same sellers. Got it delivered to the port. They are unimog specialist/dealers and would sell a good few case cvx tractors. Seem to do a bit of rebuilding gearboxes for cvx tractors. Straight enough to deal with.

so they know their stuff on the tractors they sell then? and tell you straight?

mad-for-tar

samjames wrote: »

also there a guy selling an 2004 tm135, 11k hours but say he done the brakes,50k bearing and front axle when he bought it less than 3000h ago and now says it can be made into a 50k tractor,


needs front tyres but looking 17k stg plus vat

Series 1 TM’s are 40k box only, certainly a 135 and it doesn’t have a 50k bearing either so what you’ve heard is incorrect. Only exception was a Power Command Ultra TM165 bit of a grey area but not found anything concrete to say that one is 19speed and 50k. Cylinder heads can be another weak point on the 7.5L Genesis engine and are known to drop valves etc at higher hours so I’d be bearing that in mind if you’re looking at one of these.
You cannot make them 50k technically but some have put 42” rims on the rear and opened out top engine speed to get somewhere close to it. Not something I’d advise anyway for sure.

samjames

mad-for-tar wrote: »

Series 1 TM’s are 40k box only, certainly a 135 and it doesn’t have a 50k bearing either so what you’ve heard is incorrect. Only exception was a Power Command Ultra TM165 bit of a grey area but not found anything concrete to say that one is 19speed and 50k. Cylinder heads can be another weak point on the 7.5L Genesis engine and are known to drop valves etc at higher hours so I’d be bearing that in mind if you’re looking at one of these.
You cannot make them 50k technically but some have put 42” rims on the rear and opened out top engine speed to get somewhere close to it. Not something I’d advise anyway for sure.

thanks he says it 40k eco, does 28mph at 2000rpm, can be made into 50k, also he has did the the brakes,50k bearing and front axle too

mad-for-tar

samjames wrote: »

thanks he says it 40k eco, does 28mph at 2000rpm, can be made into 50k, also he has did the the brakes,50k bearing and front axle too

Ah right. Thinking now if he says it’s a 40k eco and it’s 2004 it’s likely it’s a TS135A it is. 40 series Ford replacement. They came in 16x16 40k, 17x16 40k Eco and a 50k version. If it was 40k Eco from factory, cannot be changed to 50k unless you change transmission controller for a new one and the 50k’s also had front axle brakes. 50k bearing wasn’t really an issue on those. If it was 50k from factory, they can be reduced to 40k eco with laptop or on board diagnostics. You’d run around 42k at 1800 rpm or so.
As before if it’s a TM135, it won’t have 50k as they were 18x6 Range Command gearbox. 50k only came in the Range Command box on the T6000 Short Wheel Base in 2007(T6030,50,70,80 RC models). 19x6 gearbox. Power Command gearbox always had a 50k option available since 2001 or thereabouts but only on the TM175 and 190 LWB models of that era. The 120-155 models from same age range with PC gearbox were 18x6 40k only.

samjames

mad-for-tar wrote: »

Ah right. Thinking now if he says it’s a 40k eco and it’s 2004 it’s likely it’s a TS135A it is. 40 series Ford replacement. They came in 16x16 40k, 17x16 40k Eco and a 50k version. If it was 40k Eco from factory, cannot be changed to 50k unless you change transmission controller for a new one and the 50k’s also had front axle brakes. 50k bearing wasn’t really an issue on those. If it was 50k from factory, they can be reduced to 40k eco with laptop or on board diagnostics. You’d run around 42k at 1800 rpm or so.
As before if it’s a TM135, it won’t have 50k as they were 18x6 Range Command gearbox. 50k only came in the Range Command box on the T6000 Short Wheel Base in 2007(T6030,50,70,80 RC models). 19x6 gearbox. Power Command gearbox always had a 50k option available since 2001 or thereabouts but only on the TM175 and 190 LWB models of that era. The 120-155 models from same age range with PC gearbox were 18x6 40k only.

great stuff so this is a rare enough tractor, with those hours, front linkage and in good condition and with that work said done, whats its worth??

mad-for-tar

samjames wrote: »

great stuff so this is a rare enough tractor, with those hours, front linkage and in good condition and with that work said done, whats its worth??

Picture would b worth a thousand words here. Any links to it or pics of what it looks like?

samjames

mad-for-tar wrote: »

Picture would b worth a thousand words here. Any links to it or pics of what it looks like?

yes sure,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193210184606

mad-for-tar

Doesn’t look too bad overall alright. Need to budget straight away for a new set of shoes for her and they’re wide at that.
I reckon it is 50k that has been reduced to 40k eco, can see lines going to each front hub which means has front axle brakes also which was standard on the 50k models. Only way to know for sure if it’s 50k is by looking at the label on the transmission controller behind the panel that’s behind the seat. Mechanical remote valves as well which is a bonus. As brakes are done it’s peace of mind. Apart from that as long as it has been maintained regularly there’s not a huge amount to worry about on them. 135hp rated but has power boost function which takes it up to 160hp based on driveline demands.

samjames

mad-for-tar wrote: »

Doesn’t look too bad overall alright. Need to budget straight away for a new set of shoes for her and they’re wide at that.
I reckon it is 50k that has been reduced to 40k eco, can see lines going to each front hub which means has front axle brakes also which was standard on the 50k models. Only way to know for sure if it’s 50k is by looking at the label on the transmission controller behind the panel that’s behind the seat. Mechanical remote valves as well which is a bonus. As brakes are done it’s peace of mind. Apart from that as long as it has been maintained regularly there’s not a huge amount to worry about on them. 135hp rated but has power boost function which takes it up to 160hp based on driveline demands.

dash that shows hours is blank, wonder if that is common problem or easy fit

mad-for-tar

samjames wrote: »

dash that shows hours is blank, wonder if that is common problem or easy fit

Very common across a lot of them models. Have replaced a few before from s/h dashes, cures them most of the time. New ones can be got off this fella on eBay. Have to open up dash to replace.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264198140434