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Steel structural query

  • 19-02-2020 3:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭


    Hi all

    Wondering if any builders out there could give advice on the photo below. The area highlighted (I think) is a steel beam sitting on top of the supporting wall marked with an O. The area where the table and chairs are is a single storey extension at the back of this semi D.

    Just wondering, would it be a hugely costly exercise to take down the wall marked with O, and fill the remaining corner with additional extension floor space.

    My thinking is that if the steel currently only stretches as far as the O wall, then it would need to be completely replaced by a longer beam to cover the full width of the house. Or would it had to have been a full size beam put in the first place?

    Obviously will check with the agent but not sure they will have an answer on this

    8rOT4J.jpg


Comments

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Replaced by a longer possible bigger beam. Which may impact floor to ceiling heights at ground floor or 1st floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Is that beam supporting a small gable wall above it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭briaineo


    You could also check with your engineer if the current beam is capable of the extra load and if so could be extendable?


    https://www.hunker.com/13415436/how-to-extend-a-load-bearing-beam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    briaineo wrote: »
    You could also check with your engineer if the current beam is capable of the extra load and if so could be extendable?


    https://www.hunker.com/13415436/how-to-extend-a-load-bearing-beam

    It almost definitely wouldn't, not at that span. Plus given the downstand in the ceiling between the kitchen and living area, it looks like there's a beam there too, which is currently loading onto the wall the OP wants to remove, and would therefore become a point load on the new beam.

    You need an engineer, OP. Almost certainly looking at replacing the existing beam with a new beam if you're looking to open up that whole back wall, and it'll be a decent size of a beam to do that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Penn wrote: »
    It almost definitely wouldn't, not at that span. Plus given the downstand in the ceiling between the kitchen and living area, it looks like there's a beam there too, which is currently loading onto the wall the OP wants to remove, and would therefore become a point load on the new beam.

    You need an engineer, OP. Almost certainly looking at replacing the existing beam with a new beam if you're looking to open up that whole back wall, and it'll be a decent size of a beam to do that too.

    +1
    + a lot of work, that you really need to think is the game with the candle.
    The new beam would also be a beast to get in and fit
    The existing is certainly a 205/ maybe a 254 and the new one could be a 356, hard to tell as the estate agent has distort the image to make it look bigger
    http://rfl.ie/products/universal-beams/
    .
    What would be an easier solution would be to fit a UC as a support at point O, which would also catch the new beam that would go over over the door.
    Not the full clean lines you might be after but would be a hell of a lot cheaper.
    http://rfl.ie/products/universal-columns/
    just weld a plate on the bottom and top to catch the two beams

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    Thanks for all the replies everyone


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