What is the opinions on this?

RobAMerc

too far gone ?
not too bad ?
hard to tell ?

Its a Jag XJ12 - bit of a boyhood dream.

supervento

RobAMerc wrote: »

too far gone ?
not too bad ?
hard to tell ?

Its a Jag XJ12 - bit of a boyhood dream.

i am sure you already know this..... I would personally pay more and get a better example... I would say that one is too far gone.... depends on your skills with a welder i guess...

Bigus

How much is a real good one worth, aren’t they’re fairly plentiful and cheap in the uk ?, so economically yes it’s too far gone , if it was worth 50 k refinished then it’s not too far gone but I’d imagine you’d get a good one for £12 k and an average one for half that.
For what it’s worth I drove a real good 3 speed auto V12 recently and it was a joke compared to modern stuff, no go at all unless you made it rev By holding the stick back , and when it did rev it wasn’t happy.
The auto box only wanted to change up way before there was any surge forward, there was nothing wrong with the car but it was hugely disappointing , it’s amazing how a modern diesel would have much more low down torque , and a modern small petrol way more top end power.
Yes a V12 seems great on paper, but the Jag ain’t no Ferrari or Lambo , more like a lumbering 50’s American straight six in sound/punch and efficiency.

kadman

Its far worse than what you can see, it always is.
Its doable, but realistically at what cost. That type of bodywork repair will
run into 4 figures easily.

So its either spend it on repairs, or up the budget for a better vehicle.

Of course if you are doing all the welding repair your self, well thats a different animal.

RobAMerc

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694

Bigus

RobAMerc wrote: »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694

Way to go , a max 4 k should close that auction out, but it might come a lot cheaper.

RobAMerc

Bigus wrote: »

Way to go , a max 4 k should close that auction out, but it might come a lot cheaper.

but is it worth it ??? given the work that has to be done ....

tiz a bloody nice car - exact colour and spec the 12 YO me wants too

kadman

Too many corrosion flags on past mot to bid on that surely.??

RobAMerc

find one without them and I can't afford it ( or the owner knew the MOT guy )

kadman

RobAMerc wrote: »

find one without them and I can't afford it ( or the owner knew the MOT guy )

But can you afford to fix extensive body work issues, thats the other side of the coin.

Plus the fact you cant get to see it in the flesh.
Risky business.

macplaxton

Shortcut to bankruptcy.

When it runs, it costs a fortune.
When it's not, it costs a fortune.

RobAMerc

RobAMerc wrote: »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694

You'd be better off robbing a Merc!


Serious answer, if you cannot afford to buy one in a decent condition you're taking a massive chance you can repair this (or similar) for less.

con747

The tyres are good

irshmerc

Don't do it.....

tdf7187

Mate, just no. These cars cost a bomb to run at the best of times. Find one in somewhat decent condition if you must.

RobAMerc

jesus, I see the appetite for a project car round here is a big fat 0 !

Ye are all correct of course, but I'm in this with the heart a bit I think, not the head.

kadman

But you asked for opinions:p

Now you are trying to convince your self its a project car.

Can you or do you want to spend thousands on bodywork. If the answer is yes,
go for it.

Thats another opinion:D:D

RobAMerc

RobAMerc wrote: »

jesus, I see the appetite for a project car round here is a big fat 0 !

Ye are all correct of course, but I'm in this with the heart a bit I think, not the head.

If it's a project car (effectively a hobby) then of course, fire away. There's worse ways to spend money. But, it's very subjective, and input from others as to the sanity of it is a bit moot.

Bigus

The good eBay one sold for £3047

RobAMerc

Bigus wrote: »

The good eBay one sold for £3047

The good ebay one ?