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What is the opinions on this?

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  • 18-02-2020 11:30pm
    #1
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭


    too far gone ?
    not too bad ?
    hard to tell ?

    Its a Jag XJ12 - bit of a boyhood dream.


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    supervento
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭supervento


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    too far gone ?
    not too bad ?
    hard to tell ?

    Its a Jag XJ12 - bit of a boyhood dream.


    i am sure you already know this..... I would personally pay more and get a better example... I would say that one is too far gone.... depends on your skills with a welder i guess...


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    Bigus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Bigus


    How much is a real good one worth, aren’t they’re fairly plentiful and cheap in the uk ?, so economically yes it’s too far gone , if it was worth 50 k refinished then it’s not too far gone but I’d imagine you’d get a good one for £12 k and an average one for half that.
    For what it’s worth I drove a real good 3 speed auto V12 recently and it was a joke compared to modern stuff, no go at all unless you made it rev By holding the stick back , and when it did rev it wasn’t happy.
    The auto box only wanted to change up way before there was any surge forward, there was nothing wrong with the car but it was hugely disappointing , it’s amazing how a modern diesel would have much more low down torque , and a modern small petrol way more top end power.
    Yes a V12 seems great on paper, but the Jag ain’t no Ferrari or Lambo , more like a lumbering 50’s American straight six in sound/punch and efficiency.


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    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Its far worse than what you can see, it always is.
    Its doable, but realistically at what cost. That type of bodywork repair will
    run into 4 figures easily.

    So its either spend it on repairs, or up the budget for a better vehicle.

    Of course if you are doing all the welding repair your self, well thats a different animal.


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    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694


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    Bigus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Bigus


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694

    Way to go , a max 4 k should close that auction out, but it might come a lot cheaper.


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    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Bigus wrote: »
    Way to go , a max 4 k should close that auction out, but it might come a lot cheaper.

    but is it worth it ??? given the work that has to be done ....

    tiz a bloody nice car - exact colour and spec the 12 YO me wants too


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    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Too many corrosion flags on past mot to bid on that surely.??


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    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    find one without them and I can't afford it ( or the owner knew the MOT guy )


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    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    find one without them and I can't afford it ( or the owner knew the MOT guy )

    But can you afford to fix extensive body work issues, thats the other side of the coin.

    Plus the fact you cant get to see it in the flesh.
    Risky business.


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    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Shortcut to bankruptcy.

    When it runs, it costs a fortune.
    When it's not, it costs a fortune.


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    [Deleted User]
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ12-Sovereign-1989-Automatic-5-3-Dorchester-Grey-No-Reserve/202903639694


    You'd be better off robbing a Merc!


    Serious answer, if you cannot afford to buy one in a decent condition you're taking a massive chance you can repair this (or similar) for less.


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    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭con747


    The tyres are good :)

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    irshmerc
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭irshmerc


    Don't do it.....


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    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Mate, just no. These cars cost a bomb to run at the best of times. Find one in somewhat decent condition if you must.


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    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    jesus, I see the appetite for a project car round here is a big fat 0 !

    Ye are all correct of course, but I'm in this with the heart a bit I think, not the head.


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    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    But you asked for opinions:p

    Now you are trying to convince your self its a project car.

    Can you or do you want to spend thousands on bodywork. If the answer is yes,
    go for it.

    Thats another opinion:D:D


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    [Deleted User]
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    RobAMerc wrote: »
    jesus, I see the appetite for a project car round here is a big fat 0 !

    Ye are all correct of course, but I'm in this with the heart a bit I think, not the head.


    If it's a project car (effectively a hobby) then of course, fire away. There's worse ways to spend money. But, it's very subjective, and input from others as to the sanity :D of it is a bit moot.


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    Bigus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Bigus


    The good eBay one sold for £3047


    202903639694?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11010.m1951.l7534%252F7%253Feuid%253Dad30501aa253446e9a515c895818deae%2526bu%253D43792181376%2526ut%253DRU%2526segname%253D11010%2526crd%253D20200219102206%2526osub%253D-1%257E1%2526ch%253Dosgood%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.ie%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252F202903639694%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%252Cut%253Dut%252Cch%253Dch%252Csegname%253Dsegname%252Ccrd%253Dcrd%252Curl%253Dloc%252Cosub%253Dosub%2526srcrot%253De11010.m1951.l7534%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D5e7bcf991700aad0ce2384bcffeed37c&ul_noapp=true&autorefresh=true


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    #20
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Bigus wrote: »
    The good eBay one sold for £3047


    202903639694?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11010.m1951.l7534%252F7%253Feuid%253Dad30501aa253446e9a515c895818deae%2526bu%253D43792181376%2526ut%253DRU%2526segname%253D11010%2526crd%253D20200219102206%2526osub%253D-1%257E1%2526ch%253Dosgood%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.ie%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252F202903639694%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%252Cut%253Dut%252Cch%253Dch%252Csegname%253Dsegname%252Ccrd%253Dcrd%252Curl%253Dloc%252Cosub%253Dosub%2526srcrot%253De11010.m1951.l7534%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D5e7bcf991700aad0ce2384bcffeed37c&ul_noapp=true&autorefresh=true

    The good ebay one ?


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