in pain : options

Minime2.5

I have pain in an upper tooth. Number 10 I think . I had root canal treatment on it 12 years ago. There isnt much tooth left on it now. Its been restored numourous times over the years and now its more or less worn down to nub . My dentist said they may be able to restore it after root canal retreatment and then a crown or I may have to get an implant . Anyway I have left things on the long figure and now its starting to pain me . Im not in agony yet but Im worried its going to get worse. Its trobing a bit too. Anyway I cant afford the 1500 euro it will probably cost to have the root canal treatment until the end of the month. I have level 3 emergency cover with decare which covers 100% emergency treatment . Just wondering if there is anything temporary that can be done . The smiles Im with accepts direct pay with decare but they only have an endodontist once a week . Could someone please let me know my options. Im going to get some ibrobufen and numbing gel in the pharmacy today

SEPT 23 1989

You need antibiotics to sort out the abscess

Dianthus

If you have health insurance for 100% emergency treatment, this likely includes alleviation of pain& infection (or first stage re-root canal treatment) with an endodontist. You will need to clarify this with your healthcare provider however.
If you have full cover, ring around other endodontists to see who has the earliest available appointment.

If your dentist has advised extraction, retreatment usually weaken the tooth further, increasing the risk of fracture. Extraction to alleviate pain & infection would generally be "emergency" but there's no guarantee that a temporary denture or temporary bridge would be. Again, you would need to contact your health-care provider.

Minime2.5

Ok I went to the dentist on Friday about this , he confirmed that the tooth can be saved and a root canal and crown can be done as oposed to extraction. He gave me a 5 day course of antibiotics and some pain killers. I started taking the antibiotics that evening. Within 24 hours there was a massive abcess over my tooth and yesterday evening it was quite painful. After a few hours the Abcess burst by itself and the pain subsided . The pain is pretty much gone now and I was able to eat breakfast this morning. I am just wondering how long I can wait before I have to do the Root canal. I was hoping to hold it off until Monday week. Do you think with the abcess bursting and pain gone I can wait that long to get the root canal. Whats the chances of the pain coming back. Still have 3 days of antibiotics to take which I am of course going to finish. Have had no need to take any Ibuprofen today

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Ok I went to the dentist on Friday about this , he confirmed that the tooth can be saved and a root canal and crown can be done as oposed to extraction. He gave me a 5 day course of antibiotics and some pain killers. I started taking the antibiotics that evening. Within 24 hours there was a massive abcess over my tooth and yesterday evening it was quite painful. After a few hours the Abcess burst by itself and the pain subsided . The pain is pretty much gone now and I was able to eat breakfast this morning. I am just wondering how long I can wait before I have to do the Root canal. I was hoping to hold it off until Monday week. Do you think with the abcess bursting and pain gone I can wait that long to get the root canal. Whats the chances of the pain coming back. Still have 3 days of antibiotics to take which I am of course going to finish. Have had no need to take any Ibuprofen today

You need to get a root canal or extraction. Without those the pain will return. When?....who knows, you knew you needed this work months ago. You are also loosing bone around the tooth due to the abscess that needs to be halted. Antibiotics only mask the symptoms for a while and then they come back worse than ever. I would give you more advice on the how, why, who and when of root canals but you would likely think I am scaremongering if I suggested that quality dental work is time consuming, skilled, expensive and best not tendered to the lowest bidder.....

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112297228

Minime2.5

Stevie Bitter Resistor wrote: »

You need to get a root canal or extraction. Without those the pain will return. When?....who knows, you knew you needed this work months ago. You are also loosing bone around the tooth due to the abscess that needs to be halted. Antibiotics only mask the symptoms for a while and then they come back worse than ever. I would give you more advice on the how, why, who and when of root canals but you would likely think I am scaremongering if I suggested that quality dental work is time consuming, skilled, expensive and best not tendered to the lowest bidder.....

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112297228

Your point only has merit if your comparing dental treatment within a country. As I've said before the reason treatment in Hungary is cheaper than Ireland is because the cost of living is cheaper in that sense its impossible to compare quality between countries . Hungary is also not the least expensive in the slightest so not the lowest bidder .Another way of arguing your view is that dental treatment in Australia is more expensive than Ireland .Does this mean Australians get superior treatment than whats on offer in ireland ?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Your point only has merit if your comparing dental treatment within a country. As I've said before the reason treatment in Hungary is cheaper than Ireland is because the cost of living is cheaper in that sense its impossible to compare quality between countries . Hungary is also not the least expensive in the slightest so not the lowest bidder .Another way of arguing your view is that dental treatment in Australia is more expensive than Ireland .Does this mean Australians get superior treatment than whats on offer in ireland ?

Dental treatment in Austrailia follows international best practice, its a litigious culture and heavily regulated. Generally treatment is very good. Geographical remoteness means there is really no tourism based dental business. Hungarian dental treatment is a lot more variable with a number of excellent dentists and a number of dentists and clinics that undertake the treatment of foreign bargain hunter patients that want quick treatment while there on holidays, usually accompanied by a middle man that is on sales based commission. The quality of this high speed treatment is often less than optimal.

Again you are making the mistake of trying to tell me about something you know nothing about and I know a great deal about. You have never inspected the mouth of a dental tourism patient or a patient that had dental work in Australia. You have never been to a dental conference in Australia or Hungary. You simply dont have the capacity to understand what you dont know, and are just trying to make superficially clever arguments about why you are right and I am wrong while at the same time asking for advice on dental pain from a molar you knew needed treatment two months ago, but spent you time arguing with the dentists on here instead of getting it seen to, and building a relationship with a good local dentist to whom you could turn to for tursted advice.
It would appear you still know best, I hope that continues to go well for you.

Over and out.

Minime2.5

Stevie Bitter Resistor wrote: »

Dental treatment in Austrailia follows international best practice, its a litigious culture and heavily regulated. Generally treatment is very good. Geographical remoteness means there is really no tourism based dental business. Hungarian dental treatment is a lot more variable with a number of excellent dentists and a number of dentists and clinics that undertake the treatment of foreign bargain hunter patients that want quick treatment while there on holidays, usually accompanied by a middle man that is on sales based commission. The quality of this high speed treatment is often less than optimal.

Again you are making the mistake of trying to tell me about something you know nothing about and I know a great deal about. You have never inspected the mouth of a dental tourism patient or a patient that had dental work in Australia. You have never been to a dental conference in Australia or Hungary. You simply dont have the capacity to understand what you dont know, and are just trying to make superficially clever arguments about why you are right and I am wrong while at the same time asking for advice on dental pain from a molar you knew needed treatment two months ago, but spent you time arguing with the dentists on here instead of getting it seen to, and building a relationship with a good local dentist to whom you could turn to for tursted advice.
It would appear you still know best, I hope that continues to go well for you.

Over and out.

It doesn't require an expert in the mechanics of an operation to realise when one is trying to protect the financial rewards of that operation

Minime2.5

Minime2.5 wrote: »

It doesn't require an expert in the mechanics of an operation to realise when one is trying to protect the financial rewards of that operation

The likelihood of you being a patient of the person giving you advice, is near to zero. There is no financial reward here. In this case, I am on your side, I think you should book a flight for your treatment. You will be happier.

Minime2.5

Stevie Bitter Resistor wrote: »

Over and out.

Still lurking though I see 🀣

Minime2.5

Dav010 wrote: »

The likelihood of you being a patient of the person giving you advice, is near to zero. There is no financial reward here. In this case, I am on your side, I think you should book a flight for your treatment. You will be happier.

Are you for real. Do you not think others might be influenced

Minime2.5

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Are you for real. Do you not think others might be influenced

I really don’t think people attach too much gravitas to opinions on topics like this on the inter web, I don’t think what another poster posts will dissuade you if you feel you would be better served travelling abroad, nor anyone else. So look, go if you feel it is better for you, will a Dentist here lose out by you going? In all honesty, no they won’t, the percentage of people travelling abroad is a minuscule fraction of the overall number of treatments per year. Crack on, Ryanair.com awaits.

Oral Surgeon

Minime2.5 wrote: »

Are you for real. Do you not think others might be influenced

This has been done to death here...

PM this guy https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056526627
Go for a pint, I'm sure that you'll both hit it off and become really good friends. You'll both get crap treatment but you'll both be correct in the echo chamber of your own minds!!

Minime2.5

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

This has been done to death here...

PM this guy https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056526627
Go for a pint, I'm sure that you'll both hit it off and become really good friends. You'll both get crap treatment but you'll both be correct in the echo chamber of your own minds!!

so my your logic all hungarian and polish people have bad teeth

Minime2.5

Minime2.5 wrote: »

so my your logic all hungarian and polish people have bad teeth

Absolutely not, but many tend to go to their local Dentist as opposed to the ones that cater for tourists. If you want to find a good Clinic, local knowledge is best. Ask a polish or Hungarian person for a recommendation.

Oral Surgeon

Minime2.5 wrote: »

so my your logic all hungarian and polish people have bad teeth

You read that thread and that's what you took from it??!!

Yeah, yep, you got it, right you are.... cool.....

Minime2.5

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

You read that thread and that's what you took from it??!!

Yeah, yep, you got it, right you are.... cool.....

No I took it from this

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

You'll both get crap treatment

Oral Surgeon

Minime2.5 wrote: »

No I took it from this

Farm out your care to the lowest bidder and yes you will get substandard care! This shouldn't surprise you!

triona1

The only real forum i genuinely look at on boards im hysterical about my teeth, so little posts and so little regards to the dentist (and letters after your names)you all deserve medals x