Phones with non-removable batteries

Svetti Arss

My trusty LG V20 died. As before I looked for a similar or better phone with a removable battery but most phones now seem to have non-removable batteries.

Whats the deal with this? Are batteries so much better now that they don't need to be replaced? On previous phones I always had to replace the battery at some stage.

corkgsxr

No not really. But on a plus iv a s10+ and the battery is best iv ever had

Svetti Arss

Svetti Arss wrote: »

My trusty LG V20 died. As before I looked for a similar or better phone with a removable battery but most phones now seem to have non-removable batteries.

Whats the deal with this? Are batteries so much better now that they don't need to be replaced? On previous phones I always had to replace the battery at some stage.

Most people prefer water resistance and a more solid construction to a 10% battery decrease over a few years.

long_b

Built in obsolescence

long_b

long_b wrote: »

Built in obsolescence

Not really. It would just take one of the big manufacturers to make a flagship phone with a removable battery and they would sell like hot cakes. But they won't make them because they actually won't sell like hot cakes as the reason isn't built in obsolescence. It's because the average consumer prefers a sleeker, all metal build to a phone with a removable battery.

Del2005

Most people have gotten used to charging their phones every day so all the manufactures do is make the battery last 1.5 days of average usage, that and a power bank have removed the need for replacement batteries.

Svetti Arss

Del2005 wrote: »

Most people have gotten used to charging their phones every day so all the manufactures do is make the battery last 1.5 days of average usage, that and a power bank have removed the need for replacement batteries.

Any phone battery I purchased in the last few years were purchased as replacements not spares. Looks like I will have get a a power bank if the battery starting failing on the new phone. No big deal. Thanks..

biebiebie

Just be more observant charging your new phone.
Try not go below 20 and above 80-90.
More frequent small charges are better for the battery health than charging 0-100 each time.

Sony phones (for what they're worth) have a special battery management built in as far as I can remember to help prolong battery health.. Called something like "battery care"?
Not sure about other manufacturers.

biebiebie

biebiebie wrote: »

Just be more observant charging your new phone.
Try not go below 20 and above 80-90.
More frequent small charges are better for the battery health than charging 0-100 each time.

While true, that's mostly a trade-off. Would you like a battery that degrades slightly slower but doesn't last as long during the day, or do you want a battery that degrades slightly faster but lasts longer during the day? I would say most people would prefer the latter.

Also, many manufacturers (e.g. Samsung) include battery replacements in their warranty. I would just enjoy your phone and not worry too much about how your battery is doing.

biebiebie

True. And I don't mean that one should be compulsive about it either. It's to strike a fine balance.

Also if you have a large battery capacity, then the smaller more frequent charges aren't so frequent either

drunkmonkey

One plus 7 pro and one plus 7T pro have serious batteries along with warp charging, they leave any other phone I've had in the dust, the other half has an s10 and it's not even close.

long_b

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's because the average consumer prefers a sleeker, all metal build to a phone with a removable battery.

I disagree.

How many people do you know who use their phones without a case?

long_b

long_b wrote: »

I disagree.

How many people do you know who use their phones without a case?

I believe the actual statistic is that ~80% of people use cases, so a lot.

But a phone can still look and feel "sleek" with a case. Perhaps a better word to use is "solid", i.e. not flimsy and fragile.

If you believe it's planned obsolescence then why doesn't a company sell a flagship with a removable battery and dominate the market?

sentient_6

In the 8 years I've been using android phones I've never given two sh1ts about removable batteries.

I miss removable batteries, wish i could swap out the one in my pixel, love that phone, sad its gonna die someday.

sugarman

sugarman wrote: »

By the time it starts to die though t'll be obsolete.

..and just because it hasn't got a removable battery doesn't mean it can't be replaced anyway.

Thats true, but i could still make calls and texts which is all i do on it anyway but I would really like to still use the camera, it is superb.