New build for home office/ gaming from Amazon.co.uk

glasspicklejar

Hi,

I have a budget of c.£1,500 to spend on Amazon.co.uk to build a home office/ gaming PC. The machine will be moved around at weekends and holidays, so I was thinking a smaller case (ITX?) would be useful. I'm thinking of getting an Oculus Rift (outside the budget), so would like a build that would support that.

I was thinking about a Ryzen 3600X/ Radeon 5700/ 16GB DDR4 3600 RAM, but that's based on watching a few YouTube videos, so what do I know...

This would be my first build.

1. What is your budget? £1,500 STG.

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Home office/ gaming.

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Yes.

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No.

5. Do you need a monitor? Yes.

5a. If yes, what size do you need? 24"+

5b. N/A

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? I need a keyboard and a mouse.

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? I don't think so.

8. How can you pay? Will be buying from Amazon.co.uk, but can buy elsewhere if unavailable on Amazon.co.uk

9. When are you purchasing? Now.

Any and all advice appreciated.

K.O.Kiki

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£259.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£119.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£84.17 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£102.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card (£475.19 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£70.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion SFX-L 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (£82.69 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor (£249.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1444.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-10 23:30 GMT+0000

Might as well get a 3700X & RTX 2070 Super.
Nvidia are better for VR games afaik

glasspicklejar

Thank you for taking the time to do that.

I changed some small items, in part to ensure everything comes from Amazon.co.uk.
I also changed the motherboard as I read that I would have to flash the bios to support Ryzen 3rd gen and I don't have the ability to do that.
I changed the power supply as there was a long wait for the one you mentioned.
I changed the case as it's not available until the end of the month.
I put more RAM in too, assuming more is better.

There's no explicit cooling in the setup, other than what was in the case(s).

Is this okay?

Cheers.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor (8C/16T, 36MB Cache, 4.4 GHz Max Boost)
Motherboard: Aorus X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI (Socket AM4/X570/DDR4/S-ATA 600/Mini-ITX)
Memory: G.Skill 32 GB PC 3600 CL19 KIT (2 x 16 GB) 32GSXWB Sniper
Storage: Crucial CT1000P1SSD8 P1 1 TB (3D, NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2, Solid State Drive)
Video Card: EVGA 08G-P4-3071-KR Graphics Card GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GDDR6 Graphics Cards (GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit, 7680 x 4320 pixels, PCI Express 3.0)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Cube Gaming Computer Case CA-1B8-00S1WN-00
Power Supply: Corsair SF Series SF600 SFX 600 W Fully Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply Unit - Black
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQUXEN 27-Inch WQHD Monitor - Dark Silver
Total: £1,581.93

K.O.Kiki

glasspicklejar wrote: »

Thank you for taking the time to do that.

I changed some small items, in part to ensure everything comes from Amazon.co.uk.
I also changed the motherboard as I read that I would have to flash the bios to support Ryzen 3rd gen and I don't have the ability to do that.
I changed the power supply as there was a long wait for the one you mentioned.
I changed the case as it's not available until the end of the month.
I put more RAM in too, assuming more is better.

There's no explicit cooling in the setup, other than what was in the case(s).

Is this okay?

Cheers.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor (8C/16T, 36MB Cache, 4.4 GHz Max Boost)
Motherboard: Aorus X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI (Socket AM4/X570/DDR4/S-ATA 600/Mini-ITX)
Memory: G.Skill 32 GB PC 3600 CL19 KIT (2 x 16 GB) 32GSXWB Sniper
Storage: Crucial CT1000P1SSD8 P1 1 TB (3D, NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2, Solid State Drive)
Video Card: EVGA 08G-P4-3071-KR Graphics Card GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GDDR6 Graphics Cards (GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit, 7680 x 4320 pixels, PCI Express 3.0)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Cube Gaming Computer Case CA-1B8-00S1WN-00
Power Supply: Corsair SF Series SF600 SFX 600 W Fully Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply Unit - Black
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQUXEN 27-Inch WQHD Monitor - Dark Silver
Total: £1,581.93

32Gb RAM is unnecessary, 16Gb of 3600MHz CL17 is sufficient.
You can get faster SSD than Crucial P1 for only a few quid more. It's not a bad product though.
CPU cooler is included with the 3700X.
With the Core V1, no need to buy a premium SFX PSU. Regular ATX like Corsair TXM will fit.

Lu Tze

Lian li do an itx case with a handle, if your going to be moving/bringing it around a lot

Shiminay

Get one of these and you'll be all set for any carrying around you need to do

daheadonu

Just want to say i have that monitor I've found the picture to be very nice

BloodBath

That samsung monitor is alright. It's biggest downside is the lack of v-sync or g-sync. Wouldn't be too fond of the curve either.

This is worth the extra imo. Flat IPS with free-sync.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-VG270Ubmiipx-27-inch-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07P6S61TS/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=27%22%2B1440p%2B144hz&qid=1581458198&s=computers&sr=1-2&th=1

glasspicklejar

BloodBath wrote: »

That samsung monitor is alright. It's biggest downside is the lack of v-sync or g-sync. Wouldn't be too fond of the curve either.

This is worth the extra imo. Flat IPS with free-sync.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-VG270Ubmiipx-27-inch-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07P6S61TS/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=27%22%2B1440p%2B144hz&qid=1581458198&s=computers&sr=1-2&th=1

I ordered the Samsung before seeing your comment. Thanks for the input, hopefully the Samsung's fit for purpose.

BloodBath

It's a good monitor but for more budget builds. You're spending a lot on the build to not have it.

It's imo an essential feature for any high end build. Even budget stuff has it these days.

It's also quite an old panel technology. The modern IPS panels from LG that are in that other monitor are far better.

If you ordered through Amazon and it hasn't been dispatched yet you could cancel it.

glasspicklejar

I ordered from Komplett in the end, Amazon wouldn't deliver it. I will call in the morning. How about the rest of the build? Cheers for the feedback.

BloodBath

Looks great. A real nice high end build. That's why I thought the monitor was out of place.

You went overkill on cpu and ram but cut corners on the monitor. I don't see the point in that.

Cuddlesworth

BloodBath wrote: »

Looks great. A real nice high end build. That's why I thought the monitor was out of place.

You went overkill on cpu and ram but cut corners on the monitor. I don't see the point in that.

It's a 1440p 144hz 27inch. I think he will be ok not having some niche features.

BloodBath

I wouldn't call G-sync/ Free-sync a niche feature tbh. It's 1 of the best features on a modern monitor.

Screen tearing is by far 1 of the worst artefacts to ever plague gaming and it eliminates it completely without having to use awful v-sync.

glasspicklejar

BloodBath wrote: »

I wouldn't call G-sync/ Free-sync a niche feature tbh. It's 1 of the best features on a modern monitor.

Screen tearing is by far 1 of the worst artefacts to ever plague gaming and it eliminates it completely without having to use awful v-sync.

I cancelled the Komplett order. The other monitor you referenced has a 1- 2 month wait. What about this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GSFC4VS/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_WOarEbZ0FNDG1

Acer Nitro VG270Ubmiipx 27-inch WQHD Gaming Monitor - (IPS Panel, FreeSync, 1ms, ZeroFrame, DP, HDMI, Black)

It's Amazon again but looks like it is in stock and they can deliver.

Just looking for something that will do justice to the GP.

Cheers.

BloodBath

Well that sucks. That's why the price was so low I guess. The only other shop for it is pcworld/currys uk who don't deliver to Ireland.

Not even through parcel motel as you need a UK bank account according to the rep. There is a hefty price jump past those for something nice.

The monitor you linked is only 75hz.

glasspicklejar

BloodBath wrote: »

The monitor you linked is only 75hz.

Understood. What's the 'hierarchy of needs here'? Is it?

1. Size
2. Resolution
3. Refresh rate
4. Synchronization (G-Sync vs. FreeSync)

I did some reading on G-Sync (as I have an NVidia GPU) and read here that there are G-Sync compatible FreeSync monitors.

I am considering getting this one:


Acer XF270HBbmiiprzx 27 Inch FHD Gaming Monitor, Black (TN Panel, FreeSync, 144 Hz, 1ms, ZeroFrame, DP, HDMI, USB Hub)


It's G-Sync compatible, 144Hz, full HD. This seems a good compromise. Any thoughts?

Cheers.

Jo Satan

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/acer-nitro-vg270upbmiipx-quad-hd-27-lcd-gaming-monitor-black-10195212-pdt.html

This is available for €349, delivery €5.99

glasspicklejar

Jo Satan wrote: »

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/pc-monitors/pc-monitors/acer-nitro-vg270upbmiipx-quad-hd-27-lcd-gaming-monitor-black-10195212-pdt.html

This is available for €349, delivery €5.99

And according to this site, it is G-Sync compatible.

Cheers!

BloodBath

Good find. That should do the trick.

Monitors are incredibly complex and there's a lot of variables outside of the ones you listed. Quality of backlighting, colour reproduction rates, free-sync/g-sync range (low frame rate compensation). IPS generally has the best colours and middle of the road response times, VA the best contrast but worst response times, TN the best response times but worst colours. I could go on.

Stick with modern VA and IPS panels from the last year or so though. Modern LG IPS panels especially. (which is in the above linked monitor) They are killing it atm. TN is not worth it imo unless going for super high refresh 240+ for professional gaming.

glasspicklejar

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/ce5svz/inwin_chopin_and_gigabyte_x570_i_aorus_pro_wifi/

I started the build last night. CPU, stock fan, NVMe SSD and RAM installed. I went to install the motherboard into the case... won't fit!! Lots of fiddling around. No luck. Found the above link.

The underside of the motherboard hits the riser on the case's offset for the mounts.

Sounds crazy, but I am gutted Had plans to build over the midterm.

Any thoughts on where I can pick up a mini itx case in Dublin/ Carlow at shirt notice?

glasspicklejar

Okay, so I knew I wasn't going to get round to returning the case to Amazon, so I decided to try modifying myself!

Job done. Very simple, two small cuts.

So, the the motherboard fits fine now. I haven't fitting everything into the case yet, I first wanted to get the computer to POST.

I have power and the CPU fan and RAM RGB is lit up, but I am not getting any output on either HDMI output.

I don't hear a beep when I power up the computer.

Any ideas?

Thanks

BloodBath

Make sure you are using the gpu hdmi/dp connections for the monitor. Not the ones on the motherboard.

Also make sure you have power going to the gpu. Did you connect both power cables?

Make sure the gpu is fully in the pci-e slot as well. You should be using the top slot nearest the cpu as well.

Are both motherboard power connectors in place?

Does the monitor have an option to choose it's default connection although it should auto detect.

glasspicklejar

Thanks for replying. I haven't installed the GPU yet (arriving Monday). Both power cables are installed. Have cycled through the monitor inputs, nothing on either....

BloodBath

Oh in that case then you won't be able to do it without the gpu.

Those cpu's do not have onboard graphics.

glasspicklejar

BloodBath wrote: »

Those cpu's do not have onboard graphics.

. The motherboard has two HDMI ports and a display port, or am I missing something? Thanks

BeciMester

The motherboard supports CPUs with integrated graphics, as in, if you drop in such a CPU it's ready to show the video it generates - but the board doesn't have a graphics chip on its own, and your CPU doesn't have integrated graphics either. To make use of those ports you'd need one of these CPUs.

glasspicklejar

BeciMester wrote: »

The motherboard supports CPUs with integrated graphics, as in, if you drop in such a CPU it's ready to show the video it generates - but the board doesn't have a graphics chip on its own, and your CPU doesn't have integrated graphics either. To make use of those ports you'd need one of these CPUs.

Ahhh... So hopefully everything is good and it will all work when the GPU arrives! Thank you.

glasspicklejar

glasspicklejar wrote: »

Ahhh... So hopefully everything is good and it will all work when the GPU arrives! Thank you.

GPU arrived. We're in business! Thank you everyone for your patience and help.