Book - SFs Eoin O'Broin - Home: Why Public Housing is the Answer

The_Conductor

Has anyone read Eoin O'Broin's book 'Home: Why Public Housing is the Answer'?

I suspect its going to give us a roadmap of what to expect from any government involving SF in the Accommodation and Property sector.

Have to see if there is a copy in the local library.

garhjw

The_Conductor wrote: »

Has anyone read Eoin O'Broin's book 'Home: Why Public Housing is the Answer'?

I suspect its going to give us a roadmap of what to expect from any government involving SF in the Accommodation and Property sector.

Have to see if there is a copy in the local library.

I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time or money than to buy that book and see what he has to say. He doesn’t have a lie what he is talking about. It’s all text book socialist bollo*ology that doesn’t work in the real world. 100k houses in 5 years.... rent freeze won’t affect supply.....

The_Conductor

We're on track to build 100k units over the next 5 years (without expanding the building sector) and of course rent freezes will affect supply- there are lots of people who are assuming the 4% per annum will continue to apply- who got caught out at the outset of the RPZs.

Landlords are actively exiting the sector- the list of reasons to do so has most probably just lengthened considerably.

LeineGlas

garhjw wrote: »

I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time or money than to buy that book and see what he has to say. He doesn’t have a lie what he is talking about. It’s all text book socialist bollo*ology that doesn’t work in the real world. 100k houses in 5 years.... rent freeze won’t affect supply.....

Have you read it?

thequarefellow

garhjw wrote: »

I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time or money than to buy that book and see what he has to say. He doesn’t have a lie what he is talking about. It’s all text book socialist bollo*ology that doesn’t work in the real world. 100k houses in 5 years.... rent freeze won’t affect supply.....

You don't want to read what he has to say but at the same time you are telling us what it says???

handlemaster

The_Conductor wrote: »

We're on track to build 100k units over the next 5 years (without expanding the building sector) and of course rent freezes will affect supply- there are lots of people who are assuming the 4% per annum will continue to apply- who got caught out at the outset of the RPZs.

Landlords are actively exiting the sector- the list of reasons to do so has most probably just lengthened considerably.

Totally has. The topic could do with it's own thread. There will be serious implications for the market if SF have their way

garhjw

thequarefellow wrote: »

You don't want to read what he has to say but at the same time you are telling us what it says???

I haven’t read and wont waste my time. Firstly the idea that a 3 year rent freeze wont affect supply is laughable. To say otherwise shows a lack of intelligence or honesty.

Where will all the construction workers come from that will build all the houses?

kegblag

If the book is so important you'd think O'Broin would make it freely available as a download and not enrich the likes of Jeff Bezos and the capitalistic free market.

You can read the "Overture" and a bit of chapter one in the amazon look inside feature.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Why-Public-Housing-Answer/dp/1785372653

This bit stood out for me, handy for any reader unfamiliar with the word "dysfunctional".

"The word I would choose to describe our housing system is dysfunctional. The Greek origin of the word connotes something 'bad', 'abnormal, or 'difficult'. The Latin root speaks to a 'lack' of something. In more recent times the word means an abnormality or impairment in an organ or system. But it has also come to describe the disruption of normal social relation."

Worryingly for the overall quality of the book he has a typo "repitional damage" two paragraphs up from his educational piece on the word 'dysfunctional'. A glaringly obvious typo in the Overture isn't a good overture.

Marcusm

kegblag wrote: »

If the book is so important you'd think O'Broin would make it freely available as a download and not enrich the likes of Jeff Bezos and the capitalistic free market.

You can read the "Overture" and a bit of chapter one in the amazon look inside feature.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Why-Public-Housing-Answer/dp/1785372653

This bit stood out for me, handy for any reader unfamiliar with the word "dysfunctional".

"The word I would choose to describe our housing system is dysfunctional. The Greek origin of the word connotes something 'bad', 'abnormal, or 'difficult'. The Latin root speaks to a 'lack' of something. In more recent times the word means an abnormality or impairment in an organ or system. But it has also come to describe the disruption of normal social relation."

Worryingly for the overall quality of the book he has a typo "repitional damage" two paragraphs up from his educational piece on the word 'dysfunctional'. A glaringly obvious typo in the Overture isn't a good overture.

It's that very poor Blackrock College education - more focused on rugby than literacy.

marieholmfan

kegblag wrote: »

If the book is so important you'd think O'Broin would make it freely available as a download and not enrich the likes of Jeff Bezos and the capitalistic free market.

You can read the "Overture" and a bit of chapter one in the amazon look inside feature.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Why-Public-Housing-Answer/dp/1785372653

This bit stood out for me, handy for any reader unfamiliar with the word "dysfunctional".

"The word I would choose to describe our housing system is dysfunctional. The Greek origin of the word connotes something 'bad', 'abnormal, or 'difficult'. The Latin root speaks to a 'lack' of something. In more recent times the word means an abnormality or impairment in an organ or system. But it has also come to describe the disruption of normal social relation."

Worryingly for the overall quality of the book he has a typo "repitional damage" two paragraphs up from his educational piece on the word 'dysfunctional'. A glaringly obvious typo in the Overture isn't a good overture.

Do you imagine that he edited the paperback?

jimmycrackcorm

I'm curious to see what his view his on public housing is in terms of the mix of social Vs private housing.

I'm all for a government building mixed social and affordable housing, but it's unsustainable to keep the policy of requiring a percentage of private housing to be dedicated for social use as it's simply to expensive to deliver.

Bleeding hearts might not agree but housing cannot be fixed by buying one house in an development of ten one million euro houses just to generate a social mix.

LeineGlas

kegblag wrote: »

If the book is so important you'd think O'Broin would make it freely available as a download and not enrich the likes of Jeff Bezos and the capitalistic free market.

You can read the "Overture" and a bit of chapter one in the amazon look inside feature.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Why-Public-Housing-Answer/dp/1785372653

This bit stood out for me, handy for any reader unfamiliar with the word "dysfunctional".

"The word I would choose to describe our housing system is dysfunctional. The Greek origin of the word connotes something 'bad', 'abnormal, or 'difficult'. The Latin root speaks to a 'lack' of something. In more recent times the word means an abnormality or impairment in an organ or system. But it has also come to describe the disruption of normal social relation."

Worryingly for the overall quality of the book he has a typo "repitional damage" two paragraphs up from his educational piece on the word 'dysfunctional'. A glaringly obvious typo in the Overture isn't a good overture.

You can get it in your local library.

Graces7

kegblag wrote: »

If the book is so important you'd think O'Broin would make it freely available as a download and not enrich the likes of Jeff Bezos and the capitalistic free market.

You can read the "Overture" and a bit of chapter one in the amazon look inside feature.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-Why-Public-Housing-Answer/dp/1785372653

This bit stood out for me, handy for any reader unfamiliar with the word "dysfunctional".

"The word I would choose to describe our housing system is dysfunctional. The Greek origin of the word connotes something 'bad', 'abnormal, or 'difficult'. The Latin root speaks to a 'lack' of something. In more recent times the word means an abnormality or impairment in an organ or system. But it has also come to describe the disruption of normal social relation."

Worryingly for the overall quality of the book he has a typo "repitional damage" two paragraphs up from his educational piece on the word 'dysfunctional'. A glaringly obvious typo in the Overture isn't a good overture.

Nit picking

John Hutton

Bought it yesterday, it's 15 quid. Read about a third of it, so far it's a very good overview of housing policy from 1870 to 1970 or so, very interesting.