I Haven't Voted Since the First Lisbon Treaty

MrAbyss

You know the one were 'stronger democracy' told us to go back and vote the right result this time?

When I tell people I do not vote and never will again since that fiasco proved conclusively there is no democracy allowed in EU states, many people are offended. I get the usual 'it is your duty to vote!' No it isn't. When I hear 'our ancestors fought for this democracy...' I remind them that since the first Lisbon Vote was rejected we don't live in a democracy anymore. We are not even an independent nation if our popular ballots are rejected for not serving the EU spooks.

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

Effects

MEh.

JeffKenna

MrAbyss wrote: »

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

They tie it to the booth in my place.
I find paddy power a lot better to nick pens from.

I'm not voting for any of the cnuts! You only ever see them begging at election time and you don't see them for dust after!
I don't need to hear crap about 'its your duty to vote',I care as much about them as they do about me!

Ireland should secede from the EU and float to South America. That way there will be more lime in the coconut.

Bigbagofcans

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland should secede from the EU and float to South America. That way there will be more lime in the coconut.coke, you nut

Oranage2

Same op, 2007,first and only time I voted

EmmetSpiceland

Oranage2 wrote: »

Same op, 2007,first and only time I voted

You both need to get over that you voted “wrong” and the rest of us had to vote again to correct that.

Bracken81

MrAbyss wrote: »

You know the one were 'stronger democracy' told us to go back and vote the right result this time?

When I tell people I do not vote and never will again since that fiasco proved conclusively there is no democracy allowed in EU states, many people are offended. I get the usual 'it is your duty to vote!' No it isn't. When I hear 'our ancestors fought for this democracy...' I remind them that since the first Lisbon Vote was rejected we don't live in a democracy anymore. We are not even an independent nation if our popular ballots are rejected for not serving the EU spooks.

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

Your probably not wrong either, the Deck can be well stacked towards whatever the desired outcome is...............but I await the conspiracy theory loon tag labelled at you any minute now

buckwheat

MrAbyss wrote: »

You know the one were 'stronger democracy' told us to go back and vote the right result this time?

When I tell people I do not vote and never will again since that fiasco proved conclusively there is no democracy allowed in EU states, many people are offended. I get the usual 'it is your duty to vote!' No it isn't. When I hear 'our ancestors fought for this democracy...' I remind them that since the first Lisbon Vote was rejected we don't live in a democracy anymore. We are not even an independent nation if our popular ballots are rejected for not serving the EU spooks.

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

Bet you they're not. Bet not a single person gives a flying **** if you vote or not or what your reasons are. Also bet you insist on telling them though....

Cee-Jay-Cee

MrAbyss wrote: »

You know the one were 'stronger democracy' told us to go back and vote the right result this time?

When I tell people I do not vote and never will again since that fiasco proved conclusively there is no democracy allowed in EU states, many people are offended. I get the usual 'it is your duty to vote!' No it isn't. When I hear 'our ancestors fought for this democracy...' I remind them that since the first Lisbon Vote was rejected we don't live in a democracy anymore. We are not even an independent nation if our popular ballots are rejected for not serving the EU spooks.

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

Wouldn’t mind them, anyone who gets offended because someone doesn’t use their vote is a Grade A wanker.

Maewyn Succat

MrAbyss wrote: »

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

They don't use crayons...they are afraid Sinn Fein and PBP voters will eat themðŸ˜

Donnielighto

MrAbyss wrote: »

You know the one were 'stronger democracy' told us to go back and vote the right result this time?

When I tell people I do not vote and never will again since that fiasco proved conclusively there is no democracy allowed in EU states, many people are offended. I get the usual 'it is your duty to vote!' No it isn't. When I hear 'our ancestors fought for this democracy...' I remind them that since the first Lisbon Vote was rejected we don't live in a democracy anymore. We are not even an independent nation if our popular ballots are rejected for not serving the EU spooks.

The only reason to go into a voting booth is to rob the black crayon.

Reasons for a no vote page 14

People didn't know what they were voting for or the concerns werent valid considering the treaty. It was lack of clarity on the side of the referendum committee or misinformation on the no side or that lead to it. People, correctly, voted for the status quo instead of an unknown. Those concerns were dealt with with and the referendum passed.

Donnielighto

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You both need to get over that you voted “wrong” and the rest of us had to vote again to correct that.

If they didn't know what they were voting for it's fair enough to vote no tbh.

Feisar

Donnielighto wrote: »

If they didn't know what they were voting for it's fair enough to vote no tbh.

I'd disagree, if one doesn't know then don't vote I would say.

KiKi III

The EU has absolutely no involvement in our local or national elections. That’s a really silly reason not to vote.

Donnielighto

Feisar wrote: »

I'd disagree, if one doesn't know then don't vote I would say.

If you are happy with the status quo and don't know what the change is the prudent option is to be conservative.

sondagefaux

I haven't eaten a Curly Wurly since I was about 4 or 5.

tayto lover

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You both need to get over that you voted “wrong” and the rest of us had to vote again to correct that.

I know people who voted Yes the first time and No the second time.
They didn’t take to us being told to vote again.

Graces7

There was a news item online of a 106 years old Irish lady ordering everyone to vote; she was highly articulate and convincing . Cannot post links but a couple or three days ago.

B.A._Baracus

I have never voted. Quite proud of it too :pac:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

This will be my 16th general election vote. I have never failed to vote in a general election, local election or referendum in 55 years. If you don't vote you have no right to complain about the outcome.

It's sometimes laughable when people complain about the government of politicians and then you discover they didn't even bother voting.

MrAbyss

Zaniyah Tight Neuron wrote: »

This will be my 16th general election vote. I have never failed to vote in a general election, local election or referendum in 55 years. If you don't vote you have no right to complain about the outcome.

It's sometimes laughable when people complain about the government of politicians and then you discover they didn't even bother voting.

So the primary function of democracy is to have a legitimate grievance?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

MrAbyss wrote: »

So the primary function of democracy is to have a legitimate grievance?

Oh relax! It's an old throwaway phrase. I think you know the primary function of democracy. But playing the contrarian comes easier.

dotsman

OP, given you clearly don't understand the concept of democracy, on behalf of a grateful nation; Thank you, for not voting.

And until the day comes when you decide to learn about democracy, its probably best that you don't vote.

Asitis2019

Zaniyah Tight Neuron wrote: »

This will be my 16th general election vote. I have never failed to vote in a general election, local election or referendum in 55 years. If you don't vote you have no right to complain about the outcome.

It's sometimes laughable when people complain about the government of politicians and then you discover they didn't even bother voting.

Fully agree, every vote counts

Consider in Dublin South Central one candidate won by about 30 votes...it all adds up.

tim3000

I find it hard to rouse myself to vote. Look at our elected officials scandal after scandal with no censure, pension guaranteed for life. I look at all this looking at the ilk that run this country and realise that I am profoundly unsatisfied with the all carrot and no stick approach to the job politicians have.

The sticks we have to beat these corrupt and indifferent career politicians
are a long drawn out tribunal ending in acquittal, or our vote. Ill vote but i dont expect change.

I suspect there are many like me.

dxhound2005

Donnielighto wrote: »

If they didn't know what they were voting for it's fair enough to vote no tbh.

That's why referendums are a bad idea for complicated issues like EU treaties and Brexit. Something which takes thousands of pages of print to explain, reduced to Yes/No. And lets a minority of the electorate on a one day snapshot change the future for generations ahead.

If a party here campaigns for Irexit and gets elected to government, fair enough. But do not risk expulsion from the EU on a referendum. That would have happened if the first Lisbon result had not been overturned.