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Employers opinion on back to work schemes?

  • 03-02-2020 08:01PM
    #1
    Jp1506
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭


    I'm currently doing a tús scheme and I have the option to progress to a CE scheme. I'm wondering what are employers opinions people who have done these schemes. Do they just disregard them because they are aware of the fact that in order to do these schemes you must be unemployed for more than a year?


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  • #2
    dmm82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭dmm82


    Jp1506 wrote: »
    I'm currently doing a tús scheme and I have the option to progress to a CE scheme. I'm wondering what are employers opinions people who have done these schemes. Do they just disregard them because they are aware of the fact that in order to do these schemes you must be unemployed for more than a year?

    I did a CE scheme 10 years ago and got as much training as I could out of it. It led into a full-time admin role which then led into the HR role I am in now and I'm now finally doing a degree. I will be finished it next year at the tender age of 39! I didnt mention my CE scheme i just said it was a part-time admin position when I went for the full-time role years ago.
    They are definitely worth it if you put the effort in to get trained up.


  • #3
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,452 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    dmm82 wrote: »
    I did a CE scheme 10 years ago and got as much training as I could out of it. It led into a full-time admin role which then led into the HR role I am in now and I'm now finally doing a degree. I will be finished it next year at the tender age of 39! I didnt mention my CE scheme i just said it was a part-time admin position when I went for the full-time role years ago.
    They are definitely worth it if you put the effort in to get trained up.

    That was 10 years ago when we were in the middle of a huge recession with high unemployment.

    Unemployment is now very low.

    Skip the volunteer work, find yourself a job that pays.


  • #4
    Jp1506
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Jp1506


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    That was 10 years ago when we were in the middle of a huge recession with high unemployment.

    Unemployment is now very low.

    Skip the volunteer work, find yourself a job that pays.

    Well it's not volunteer work. You do get paid for it and it is suppose to be an opportunity to ease into the workforce and get some training while your at it. It looks good on paper but my concern is that these schemes are for the long term unemployed and a lot of employers are unforgiving to people who have been unemployed for a period of time in their lives. I've heard stories of people who have been unsuccessful in getting jobs because they can't explain what they did for a year or two a long time ago.


  • #5
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,452 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Jp1506 wrote: »
    Well it's not volunteer work. You do get paid for it .

    Nope. You are allowed to keep your social welfare, plus are given a small travel allowance.

    Divide your welfare payment by 19.5 to see your hourly rate, and compare that to the minimum wage.

    And you know exactly about the perception issue: employers know exactly who is doing these schemes now. Take a job paying a wage if at all possible.


  • #6
    Jp1506
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Jp1506


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Nope. You are allowed to keep your social welfare, plus are given a small travel allowance.

    Divide your welfare payment by 19.5 to see your hourly rate, and compare that to the minimum wage.

    And you know exactly about the perception issue: employers know exactly who is doing these schemes now. Take a job paying average if at all possible.

    I'm probably better off getting a 'real' job and to build experience that way.


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  • #7
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Jp1506 wrote: »
    Do they just disregard them because they are aware of the fact that in order to do these schemes you must be unemployed for more than a year?

    I wouldn't disregard them, to me it shows that at least the candidate is somebody actively getting off their arse and trying to find work. I'll respect anybody who is making an effort so I'd rather see a scheme there than an employment gap.

    The question isn't if employers disregard them, it is how they compare to candidates that have full time employment on their CV as opposed to part time work or schemes. It depends on the context of course, but in general I think it would be better to actually be working in any min wage job.

    Also worth pointing out that it shouldn't be the tus scheme that tips me off to a person being long term unemployed, the dates should be on the CV anyway...


  • #8
    Jp1506
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Jp1506


    'Also worth pointing out that it shouldn't be the tus scheme that tips me off to a person being long term unemployed, the dates should be on the CV anyway...'

    Well there's no point in having on your cv that you where in employment right up to the time you started a tús or ce scheme because the employer would know that your not being honest.


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