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Claiming jobseekers back payment that I never claimed

  • 02-02-2020 8:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    I'm 24 and currently work full time. About a year ago I was let go from my job and I was unemployed for 16 weeks or so. At the time I never claimed job seekers allowance as I felt it was embarrassing. I lived at home and had some money saved so I was OK.

    However I regret that decision and wonder if it's possible to now claim what I should of claimed last year.

    Is that possible?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    So you were out of work, but were able to sustain yourself until you got a new job, and now you think you can back claim?
    It doesn't work that way. You didn't sign on as out of work at the time. They won't entertain that claim at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Effects wrote: »
    So you were out of work, but were able to sustain yourself until you got a new job, and now you think you can back claim?
    It doesn't work that way. You didn't sign on as out of work at the time. They won't entertain that claim at all.

    I didn't sustain myself, my parents sustained me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    No it's not possible. You have to go to the office and ask to sign on as soon as you become unemployed, you can only be backpaid from the date you do that.

    Since you never did that, you aren't entitled to anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    As above.

    But why the embarrassment?

    When you were working you were paying taxes and prsi - si stands for social insurance.

    Your employer was also paying into the prsi pot.


    Basically you were contributing to the social fund, and when you were entitled to it you didn't want to claim.

    Get rid of the embarrassment and if you find yourself between jobs again, apply for what you are entitled to immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    you might be able to sY that you did not know and your parents and family were not familiar with sw rules and system and so you did not claim. Might be worth a try. If you were living at hime they would probably want to assess your parents income also which your parents might not be willing to include/disclose. You might get a sympathetic ear or not. Depends in how much resentment and hassle you are prepared to undertake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    you might be able to sY that you did not know and your parents and family were not familiar with sw rules and system and so you did not claim. Might be worth a try. If you were living at hime they would probably want to assess your parents income also which your parents might not be willing to include/disclose. You might get a sympathetic ear or not. Depends in how much resentment and hassle you are prepared to undertake.

    If you're working full time, you will not qualify for jobseekers. And you cant claim retrospectively. It won't matter who you get in the office unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭wifey28


    you might be able to sY that you did not know and your parents and family were not familiar with sw rules and system and so you did not claim. Might be worth a try. If you were living at hime they would probably want to assess your parents income also which your parents might not be willing to include/disclose. You might get a sympathetic ear or not. Depends in how much resentment and hassle you are prepared to undertake.


    This will never happen, even if you managed to get them to believe you didnt understand the system or entitlements, there is zero provision for someone who didnt sign on when out of work to suddenly try and get 16 weeks money they may have missed by not doing so.
    Its your responsibility to sign on when out of work, and depending on years worked, contributions paid etc this person may have not even been entitled to jobseekers benefit, and if means tester this persons parents income may have been too high anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Liamo57


    Whos to say you wernt in Grand Canaria having a ball. Get rid of any embarrassment. Theres no shame claiming what you are due. Let that be a lesson into the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    you might be able to sY that you did not know and your parents and family were not familiar with sw rules and system and so you did not claim. Might be worth a try. If you were living at hime they would probably want to assess your parents income also which your parents might not be willing to include/disclose. You might get a sympathetic ear or not. Depends in how much resentment and hassle you are prepared to undertake.

    It's not worth a try. You can only claim from the date you go in and declare yourself unemployed (and also available for and seeking work). It's not something they'll even consider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Lol! As if!!

    Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

    And BTW never, ever feel embarrassed about claiming what is due to you. It is more embarassing to be living off your parents pocket money, than going and getting something you're entitled to from the state.

    Jobseekers allowance is there for temporary support when people are out of work. That's the whole reason for its existence.

    As a pp said above. Its your responsibility to know your entitlements and apply for them at such times. It's no one else's fault you felt ashamed or didn't know you were allowed to be claiming money.

    Lesson learned!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Not a hope.

    Not sure what you're earning but you could be owed a few quid tax back if you were out of work for 16 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    I think this is a more common occurrence than people realise. People wait until they think they need the money.

    One of the main arguments for universal benefit. But that's another discussion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Happened to me in 09.worked in property sector and it crashed. Didn't claim as I had some money saved and thought I'd be working again in a week or 2. When I didn't get anotjer job I went to local social welfare office and said I'd sign on from that date. They told me I had to backdate it and my first payment was 9 weeks I think. Signed on for another 3 weeks I think then I was back working. Only time I ever claimed and like you initially it was because of embarrassment but when I saw all the layabouts in there claiming I was glad I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Hi

    I'm 24 and currently work full time. About a year ago I was let go from my job and I was unemployed for 16 weeks or so. At the time I never claimed job seekers allowance as I felt it was embarrassing. I lived at home and had some money saved so I was OK.

    However I regret that decision and wonder if it's possible to now claim what I should of claimed last year.

    Is that possible?

    No this is not possible. You can only ask for a claim to be backdated if you were let go on a particular date, dont sign on having expected to find a job quickly (or something such) and subsequently have to sign on.
    You’re not signing on because your working full time.


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